The Army Advances
Turd's Army, led by Brigadier General Andrew Maguire, made significant advances against enemy positions in June.
Keep in mind how this works. As a member of Andy's service, "DayTrades", you get to follow along to see where and when Andy puts on positions throughout the trading day. Two important items:
- The bulk of this trading takes place during London market hours.
- The service has just recently made a significant upgrade to their server speeds. This will allow members to see Andy's moves almost instantaneously.
For example, here's a snippet of yesterday's feed:
08:53:14 andy: stops seen on the last test of the high, I am buying one lot of Gold here
08:53:28 andy: 1593.60
08:53:46 andy: target 1598
08:55:28 andy: taking profit here at market
08:55:33 andy: 1597
08:55:40 andy: closing stop
08:56:39 andy: may see some fix painting shortly so a pull back to 1589 would be a likely entry
09:02:47 andy: 1602 saw strong defence/ resistance but the stops above would expose stops to 1618/20,possibly see a pull back first , in the next hour..
10:11:58 andy: I am selling one lot of Gold here 1598.90 stop 1599.30
10:12:37 andy: target 1595.20
10:13:31 andy: this is a speculative A/R pivot so tight stop
10:20:02 andy: stopped
Below is a chart of the cumulative performance of "The Army" since inception back in April.
Month Perf Cum. Perf.
Apr 12 $2,810 $2,810
May 12 $5,590 $8,400
Jun 12 $7,570 $16,070
And here is the day-to-day breakdown for June:
Cumulative Performance for June 2012: $7,570
* P/L based upon each lot consisting of a ONE contract of each vehicle.
Date Gold Silver P/L *
June 1st $2,830 - $2,830
June 2nd - - -
June 3rd - - -
June 4th - - -
June 5th - - -
June 6th $170 - $170
June 7th $200 - $200
June 8th $280 - $280
June 9th - - -
June 10th - - -
June 11th $420 - $420
June 12th $380 - $380
June 13th $190 - $190
June 14th $490 - $490
June 15th $200 - $200
June 16th - - -
June 17th - - -
June 18th -$10 - -$10
June 19th $320 - $320
June 20th $490 - $490
June 21st $630 - $630
June 22nd -$10 - -$10
June 23rd - - -
June 24th - - -
June 25th -$20 - -$20
June 26th $250 - $250
June 27th $200 - $200
June 28th - - -
June 29th $360 - -
June 30th - - -
TOTAL $7,570
What this shows is that a trader who followed Andy's trades exactly (Which, admittedly, can be a little challenging sometimes. You have to be committed and paying attention.) is up $16,070 over the past 2.5 months. And this is only trading one contract, every single time. And this is also in an extremely challenging market environment. After fees and less whatever commission you pay your broker, the member is probably up at least 13Gs. Not too shabby. That's eight, shiny and sparkly gold eagles in your safe to help you survive the coming onslaught.
If you're an experienced trader and you'd like to learn more about this program, I'd refer you back to the original podcast announcing the service. It can be found here: http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/podcast/3621/tfmr-podcast-16-special-announcement-andrew-maguire. If you'd like to register for the service, simply click this link and complete the form: http://www.coghlancapital.com/daytrades-application?ak=turd_army. Again, the first calendar month is just $100. After that, the fee is $500 per calendar month but, as you can see, the performance can quite easily pay for itself.
One other thing that members receive is Andy's weekly commentary. There are a lot of big-dollar individuals worldwide who subscribe to Andy's services simply to receive these updates. As a Turd Army regular, you get to see them, too. There is no one on the face of the planet more qualified to charge for precious metal commentary than Andy. As a 30-year veteran of London gold and silver trading, he has an extensive list of contacts and clients as well as a depth of knowledge and experience that is unmatched. If you want to know what is really going on, Andy will tell you every weekend when he posts his commentary.
Andy has granted me permission to copy-and-paste an excerpt from last weekend's commentary. Here he addresses the hubbub surrounding the "London Trader" story of June 8. ( http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2012/6/8_London_Trader_-_Staggering_515_Tons_of_Gold_Sold_in_4_Hours.html) This is the type of valuable information that members receive every weekend.
MetalsTrades Commentary - June 24th 2012
I will start by answering some excellent, member questions….
…“I came across this article yesterday, claiming the 515 metric tons dumped in the market place per "The London Trader", did not happen as they were unable to see it on the open interest. Would appreciate Andrew’s input and rebuttal.”
Regards…
This is a good question and considering COT inspired waterfall selloff events usually follow a similar pattern, it is worth taking the time to follow the footprints through this specific event. This dissection will be helpful for a lot of members as this is a common and very profitable ongoing COT, (Bullion Bank), MO and should help clear up a lot of confusion amongst market participants regarding the relationship between the Comex vs. the OTC spot and physical markets.
This blogger expresses a healthy skepticism, is well measured and rational but makes a few commonly held false assumptions that I will seek to address. I will start by pasting the relevant sections directly from the blog…
………”He does not define the term “paper gold” but we can assume he means either London gold Forwards or COMEX gold Futures. This seems to be confirmed by his remark that the anonymous “Eastern buyers” will “patiently convert” their “paper gold” to “physical in the coming weeks.” I assume this means that they will stand for delivery of their contracts”…..
My response to this is No. Sovereign, CB and physical buyers in size do not buy paper gold contracts on the Comex; this refers to spot indexing in the OTC spot market in London. This is a classic case of the Comex tail wagging the much larger spot dog. Due to both leverage and the timed deployment of established and verifiable concentrated short Bullion bank COT positioning in the Comex paper market, the price of bullion is concurrently set in the spot market. This by default enables those seeking allocation of physical in size to take advantage of the resulting discounted spot prices and lock in spot purchases on intraday/month dips in the size they wish to take delivery of at an upcoming fix. This spot indexing transaction is simply an FX currency trade where the purchaser of physical is going long gold and short USD/ EUR etc., locking in the price of gold vs. that currency. Once spot XAU/ USD, XAU/EUR etc. has been purchased, the currency price for the size of allocation sought is locked in no matter how high the price of gold may rise to on the date the spot currency purchase is cashed in for physical at a bullion bank, producer or refiner etc. at that chosen days gold fix price.
Then…...” I also assume that he is not referring to naked, leveraged longs that are forced to liquidate as the price falls, due to margin calls. He explicitly said it was “the bullion banks” doing the selling of these 515 metric tons.
Let’s look at the numbers. 515 metric tons equals 16,557,634.5 troy ounces. Rounding to the nearest 100-ounce COMEX contract, this adds up to 165,576 contracts. 165,576 new contracts were dumped onto the market on June 7, according to the London Gold Trader…...”
In response, here is where a walkthrough of the event would be helpful….1st to the bones of the discussion.
There were indeed 165,555 GCQ contracts sold during the 4 hours in question, as described in the MT post in real time on the day it occurred. The selling emanated from a bullion bank and was initially instigated in the pit about 1 hour ahead of Bernanke’s speech. Although one might expect some last minute squaring/positioning ahead of pivotal news it in not normal to see short selling/new supply commence in size so far ahead of such a price moving event. With initial selling stemming out of the pit in noticeably large tranches, and as reported to me by my contacts from a name associated with a large bullion bank, this also had the intended effect of telegraphing sell intent to the locals.
Even with that information set aside, what the blogger is missing here is that almost all these contracts were subsequently covered by the bullion bank into the days pit close thereby not showing up in the closing OI #.This is a standard MO. Through concentration, creating sufficient new supply at commonly watched pivots in a very short period of time to swamp any bids distorting true supply demand fundamentals, then once the momentum is turned down, to buy back all originating short positions into freshly pitched longs and a whole array of freshly invited new shorts.
Obviously, there is always a long for every short etc. but nevertheless the equivalent of 515 tons of paper gold was sold that would not have been sold had the bullion banks not used the power of their concentration to create sufficient supply to instigate and then game carefully orchestrated air pockets for the market to do the rest of the heavy lifting. This resulted in a stair step transference of COT shorts and was conducted at the expense of, (MM, spec’s and techs), initially by tripping longs stops, then drawing in fresh short supply on the breach of very obvious technical supports. (In this case with volume through the well watched 50 & 10 DMA’s).
These progressive breaches activated stair step knee jerk momentum selling and flipped the always present ‘neutral algo’s’, (as dissected in a prior MT commentary), over to a sell side bias. Guess who was on the other side of those trades profitably buying back the newly instigated supply? The daily downward move was then consolidated with a bearish close just below the 10DMA. (Bear in mind long or short stops are clearly visible to the 2 COT bullion banks identified in the OCC reports, concurrently holding the book on over 97% of all OTC gold and silver derivatives, a market 10 times the size of the Comex. These 2 COT banks also maintain concentrated short controlling positions in the futures markets).
Now, breaking down the footprints in more detail….
Preceding the pit selling, obvious spoofing was seen which given the signature footprints had to be from a COT algo and foreshadowed mal intent. If you recall from the MT post, we saw a very strong showing at the PM fix with large allocation sought in size, yet into the fix, we saw a block order of 10,000 GCQ contracts hitting all the bids for an $8 drop ahead of the fix followed by 35,000 contracts hitting all the bids for another $20 followed by a small $5 rise into the pit close where we saw large allocation sought at 1606. At this point, some short covering was seen, looking like a bottom likely drawing in some new longs, followed by another 30K selling tranche followed by the residuals over the remaining couple of hours. There was an obvious round off of short covering of around 50K seen into the pit close. This exercise resulted in an extremely profitable trade which also opened a window to repay/rebuy some previously underwater gold leases here in London. I am very close to the physical market here and am almost certain this was the case.
Obviously, aside from my observations and sources, I verified my information with both a trusted pit contact and traders here in London; also independently I saw this from an individual who I respect, Jesse, who appears to have concluded similar observations.
Jesse comments 08 June … “One has to consider information such as this as input to be compared to other things, since we cannot directly view what the unidentified source is specifically seeing.
However, having watched the tape in real time and looked at the changes in Open Interest, it seems to be a credible description of what happened.
It also tracks closely with my own view of the game which we are in…”
I hope my sharing this with you has been helpful.
Once again, if you are an experienced trader, I urge you to consider this service. The goal is to profit by trading along and against The Cartels and then convert each monthly gain into physical metal, thereby decreasing their available supply. If we only have a handful of members, the physical effect is negligible. However, if we can get a couple hundred folks working this program...well, then maybe we could have an impact. Regardless of that, in the end, members of The Army will be consistently adding to their stacks of physical, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that.
Have a great weekend!
TF
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re: Mono-Vaults... I'm a big fan.
I have several in both sizes. Combine them with vacuum sealed bags and desiccant, and they'll keep anything clean, dry and rust free.
Wait...WHAT?? What happened
Katie Rose? Been away and can't find your post. Whatever it is, sounds like bad news. Sorry friend
I saw the article on the Iron
I saw the article on the Iron Age coins last night, as I was armchairing digs (okay, surfing for archaeological news).
That MetalsTrades Commentary and the King World News article? I emailed both to the CFTC staff and letting them know they were being watched closely, that "I was just following orders" didn't save the Nazis in the Nuremburg trials post WWII.
Someday, somehow, we will nail these bastards.
This Weekend...
I've not been given to weird ramblings in a long time, but this weekend's stories about LIBOR manipulations have left me with a distinct "the hell with it" feeling in a good way. Tonight, I feel like "it's all so rigged and crooked, I really can stop worrying". No research, no stats, no charting, no analysis will change the fact that fundamentals are completely short-circuited by criminality. But, along with that, I also believe that there's a general acceptance of that fact by many more people in the world today. And because of that, the system is doomed.
Premonition? Divine inspiration? Gut feeling? Wild guess? Or just wishful thinking. I dunno.
I really feel that this is the week the world starts to turn to reality - real markets, real finance, real economy, and real money. And it happens because people have just gotten fed up with all the lies. People will turn away from the rigged markets and they will collapse under their own weight.
Now is the time.
Or I'm just full of it and it's business as usual tomorrow.
An honest inquiry...
Jesse Livermore said that he
Jesse Livermore said that he couldn't really think clearly about a trade unless he put money on the line, and I think there is a great deal of truth to that.
If you can't afford to lose $400, you shouldn't be trading anything.
Livermore used to...
...float small 'testing' positions to try out a particular theory or feel he had for the direction of the market. He'd then be able to gauge if he was going to be right or wrong based on the action of that 'testing' position, and his potential emotional reaction to it.
If the action agreed with his premise in some form or fashion, he'd then layer in his main position over time. He knew his emotions could affect his judgment, so he tried testing it out beforehand, without risking the stack. This allowed him, as you say, to "think clearly".
Pretty savvy.
@Dr Jerome
Depends what you mean by "hurts a little bit". If you are simply referring to the pain of losing money, as in, "I went to the Casino the other day and lost $200....dammit!", then no problem. You just need to decide if you want to play the paper game or not and what your strategy is.
If "hurts a little bit" means it puts you out in any form or fashion, ie if you have to scramble to pay a bill, if your eating a little less quality food for a couple weeks, if your left with less than adequate rainy day money, if it short changes your daily life in any way (and that includes sleep)....then forget about it. You are playing with too much.
Dr J
Sounds good to me.
If you have the $400 to do so and look at it as a calculated gamble that you could lose on and live with then do it. The upside seems tempting and the downside is only $400.
Now ya' got me thinking about checking out that AGQ for myself. Thanks for the heads up.
Ok looks like we already gave
Ok looks like we already gave 25% of that rally back since 6pm est. Who says whoop ass as usual... ?
The Euro Gets a wicked shot of Friday Cash Heroin and here we are sunday eve right about to do the Downward Dance.
Eh...
@Dr Jerome
What time-frame are you looking at, and how quickly are you expecting silver/AGQ to rise? At a strike of $66 you are way out of the money and if silver doesn't approach your targets soon, the time decay will get you and the price of your options will quickly approach zero. Even if you hit $45 by mid-August, you'd still be out of the money by $21 per option and I'd be very surprised if the price was much more than $0.40.
But what do I know? Good luck with the trade if you do decide to go ahead with it.
Dr J - My view
Spend the $400, write it off, and forget about it for a while. If you see silver headed up this summer, take a look at it, otherwise, play like it never happened. When I loan money to friends or make frivolous investments, I've found that I feel better by just expensing it at the time it happens, and should some of it come back someday, it's like found money. I've even gotten so bold as to tell them that I'll never ask for the money back, so the decision to pay me is entirely up to them. That way I don't have to get mad at anyone and the decision to repay is entirely up to them.
Dirty coins & filthy comments…
Katie,
IF what you're looking at is tarnish, then the aluminum foil, baking soda method would work, but only if you also add salt to the water, and the warmer the water the better. Minus the salt all it does is sit there.
Silver tarnish is caused by contact with sulphur. I wouldn't think long term exposure to water wouldn't cause much tarnish at all unless there was sulphur in the water.
Last year I purchased a bunch of eagles from my LCS for spot because they were all coated with some sort of contact cement and lord knows what all. They were filthy and gunky and generally nasty to behold. I took a propane torch and held each one of 'em in the flame with a pair of pliers and all the junk burned off leaving clean spotless coins behind. Be careful, though. The first coin I did this with I cooled too rapidly by dipping it in water and it permanently warped the coin (slightly). The rest I let cool naturally and there was no warpage.
Oh, and do this outside - it stinks.
The other point I wanted to make was in regards to moderated comments. If possible, I would REALLY like to see the creation of some sort of forum / area / whatever where moderated comments are whisked off to, as opposed to wholesale removed, so the rest of the community can make up their own minds as to the general assholiness of the comment, or at least get to see what all the fuss is about if they so choose. When I come on here and find comments have been removed, I'm naturally curious to know just what it was that was too controversial or rude or whatever for me to be allowed to see. Don't know how difficult that would be or if it would undermine the whole point of moderation, but FWIW I think it would be fair to all involved to replace a removed comment with something like "moderated comment moved to 'Turd's Cesspool'" followed by a link, or something similar. Then at least everybody would know that moderation has occurred and, if they so choose, why.
Just my 2¢
the Ode to Debt and Death
Karma is a Bitch
@ Dagney et al.
For starters, I am deeply skeptical in the first place about all this interventionism in the name of "democracy" or "humanity". Even if those were truthful motives, it reminds me of the arrogance of missionaries, explorers and colonialists in far away native cultures in earlier days.
Who are we to impose our values on foreign nations in general, and in particular when our own societies are breaking down from decay of morality, decency and honesty between people. We have no "moral higher ground" as justification, and every time I hear Mrs. Clinton deliver her self-righteous moral higher ground nonsense, she is just rubbing in the betrayal even further. If those were indeed truthful objectives, we would have intervened in Cote d'Ivoire, Bahrain and many other places.
Second, and this may sound harsh - I don't mean to be insensitive, but if the US government wants to send its young men and women out to be cannon fodder to perpetuate a lie in order to be top dog of the world, and create new enemies every day in the process, well so be it. That is the choice and policy of the US government for which I can only sincerely hope that the American people will put an end to some day soon.
But when that deception is, what appears to be systematically, used to lure allies, like my own country, into new conflicts, sending our boys into a foreign country hell-hole to die for a cause with no legitimacy whatsoever, I get really pissed off. Their sole purpose should be to defend our own borders, if anyone comes knocking to threaten those, and that is it! Per extension that can include members of Nato as well, but only as part of a defense pact and not as part of the aggressor bully pact, that it has morphed into.
That is why, I have been so concerned about finding out, who is telling the truth about that Turkish fighter jet, as I have commented on in earlier threads. No matter how big a crook Muammar Gaddafi was, we committed a crime in Libya, because we attacked a sovereign country and allowed the lynching of its leader without a trial in court. We have set a very dangerous precedent with that travesty, and I am ashamed that my country was a part of it.
So why did we join in Afghanistan, in Iraq and in Libya, you might ask? We have no aspirations of becoming top dog to anyone. Well, we have so far closed ranks with the US, because historically our national security has relied heavily upon, and been secured by the much appreciated efforts of American (and British) troops in earlier days, and we stand by that alliance, because we feel that we owe a debt of gratitude, and because we have no illusions about the European decision and execution capability in times of real danger at home. However, as far as I am concerned, the continued attempts of deception of so-called friends and allies renders the remaining balance of that emotional debt null and void.
And please be assured that my animosity and harsh words are aimed entirely on the US government and foreign policy - not the American people as you are being lied to just the same.
On final personal note, I am challenged on my points above and my dismissal of legitimate moral higher ground, by my young, headstrong and idealistic nephew, who is hell bent on going to Afghanistan with the armed forces. I try to explain to him, that all he will be fighting for, is regional dominance over natural resources, pipelines and poppy fields.
I try to make him understand that this venture will not be a videogame. He will be fighting real people, who vehemently hate everything he stands for, in THEIR backyard on the back of decades of LIVE training. I try to make him see, that by not having a just cause, our presence there will result in more people ready to engage in terror at home, not less. I ask him, if he is ready to risk his life, limps and mental health to fight a war that cannot be won, because we don't know the criteria for when it is won, because it is unclear exactly, who the enemy is.
He tells me, that he wants to go, so he can fight for Afghani girls' right to go to school, and to kick the backward Taliban into outer orbit around the globe. He wants to help build the local police forces and armed forces. How do you argue against the virtue of that desire?
5 years ago, I would have agreed with him. Now, after having visited a deep rabbit hole and particularly after having spent a number of years in the Middle East, I can only ask him: "If your thinking and actions needed correction to move ahead in life, would you rather have your brother and the son of your brother tell you the harsh truths to make you take the first steps towards better behavior, or would you be all ears and susceptible to the message, if a 21 year old "boy" from the other side of the world, who in your opinion worships false deities and represents a decadent culture, came into your backyard uninvited with a loaded gun to teach you that everything you have been taught, since you were born were completely wrong, and you had to change or die?" You figure it out sport.
The truth is, those changes take time - a long time. And the very first prerequisite for success in affecting change to other people - near or far - is that they like you. No one listens to harsh truths from people they don't like. So this policy of conquest to affect lasting change, is fatally flawed for this reason alone.
Dr. J, If I were inclined to
Dr. J,
If I were inclined to play in paper, that is probably what I would do. Or at least half way there. I would also do the opposite, ie a straddle trade. Bet on a major move either up or down in paper silver. You are likely to be able to sell both at a profit at some point--if you are nimble. Betting on a return of massive silver volatility is a good bet, IMO.
I personally don't play in paper, because I believe that the leverage that the EE has applied against physical will work to my advantage to such an extent that even the wondrous leverage I could get from such activities will absolutely pale to the gains I will realize from my phys. There is no way to tell when the last blow will come, and when it does, you will lose all your paper investments. Even if it is just $400, that is 14 oz of silver, which according to my own thoughts will eventually be worth about $7,700,000 in 2012 dollars (where the industrial panic pushes silver to 10X gold's value as a blow off top, and the fair value of gold being about $55,000), a figure which blows your projected returns out of the water.
Of course, I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Thanks to all
I can afford a modest loss. The bid/ask spread is wide and AGQ doesn't always fill quickly. The AGQ derivative is not priced in step with Ag. so 66 is roughly equal to 35 silver. It hit 190+ when AG was at its peak in April of 11.
I appreciate the feedback. Thanks
Now, if I can only trust that my broker will remain solvent ...Penson stock is at. 15 cents. (PNSN) uuugh..I had not checked it for a month.
Any suggestions on a new broker?
@tmosely thanks... food for thought. I want to see the move begin, either a drop to 22 or a move up through 29 before I enter. I have not looked at hedging strategies yet. My modest stack should make me a happy man one day, whichever what short term AG moves.
Deep Purple - Made In Japan
Tracklist:
Highway star
Child in time - 06:51
Smoke on the water - 19:15
The mule - 26:47
Strange Kind of Woman - 36:36
Lazy - 46:12
Space truckin' - 57:03
I forgot to add that options
I forgot to add that options on 2x ETFs are completely dysfunctional. 3x? don't ask--most of the time, they don't even trade...
@ withoutwax - Gold Standard
I would really like to discuss Still's opinions re the gold standard with you, because I find his ideas quite interesting. That would carry an added benefit that I would actually be posting something on topic - Gold - for this blog rather than mostly off topic - Politics.
But it would have to be tomorrow, because the birds have started singing once again, it is 5 in the morning here, and I have most certainly used my comment space quota for today. So it is time to hit the hay, hoping to take a rain check until tomorrow evening, where I hope you will come back to this thread to discuss ;-)
Good night y'all!
The army advances, what are our orders?
Run and Hide... according to Department of Homeland Security.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/29/border-patrol-union-claims-homeland...
Who are these people? First, they covertly supply the perps with thousands of weapons, procured from legitimate federal firearm dealers that end up at crime scenes at or near the border, then refuse to turn over the documents that expose the criminal aspects of their nefarious gun running activities, and now the other phony government department that eats its cereal out of the same box orders the BP to run and hide when some perp decides to cap off a few rounds. November cannot arrive soon enough to throw these bums out!
Drive by trollings and flaming turds
Far be it from me to feed the trolls but I truly appreciate Turd's efforts and it personally bothers me when new accounts show up just to flame him.
I have always maintained that we should "send them to fight club" for resolution. Trolls have cost this site many valued members and that was their goal to begin with.
I don't equate bears and those with unpopular opinions with trolls. But also realize that there are those who would destroy what Turd has created.
Let us focus on the issues at hand and discuss them with civility as Turd would wish.
Z
9mm Luger
Anyone in the NOVA area interested in 6-12 boxes of 9mm ammo? Box of 50 Federal ammunition.
I was thinking like $5 per box? Going overseas for a bit, can't take all this ammo. OR anyone know
a quick way to sell this legally? Pawn shop?
@tmosely
>hich according to my own thoughts will eventually be worth about $7,700,000 in 2012 dollars (where the industrial panic pushes silver to 10X gold's value as a blow off top, and the fair value of gold being about $55,000)
How do you figure that? No end product would support an industrial price at those levels. Demand for end products dies at a certain point (not that high). If we got hyperinflationary levels, people wouldn't be buying solar panels, they'd be spending whatever they could find on food.
I don't see any way silver could pass gold in value.
@senseiam
In my area we have local gun area websites which includes a classified ads section for firearms/ammo. Have you tried searching for something local on your computer?
@Really-
I will try searching for those, I think there are a few. Thanks for the reminder.
@Lamenting Laver
Very well said.
I do so endorse!
Lamenting...
I also concur unreservedly. Well said.
Lamenting...
I also concur unreservedly. Well said.
@Lamenting
Yes. Thank you.