Terrible Tuesdays

Precisely what kind of "Gubment" official would satisfy you to think the inverse? 

Cipher

There is a good Popular Mechanics article from awhile back that thoroughly debunks many of the imbecile notions of the Truthers.  Unfortunately, as they say, if you arrive at your position through non rational means, you cannot be shaken from this redoubt with rational argument.

There are plenty of reasons not to trust our government but there are no reasons to think they have literally blown up portions of their own cities and murdered thousands of their own citizens.  Screwed them economically? Yes. Murdered them? No.

That so many of these paranoid simpletons share my conclusions about PM's is cause for a little concern but the fundamentals are just too strong to let it bother me too much.

Barely out of the gate and the labels "imbeciles", "simpletons", "liars", Are being tossed around.  That's why Turd don't like these discussions on the main page, they're too uncivil.

Unfortunately, as they say, if you arrive at your position through non rational means, you cannot be shaken from this redoubt with rational argument.

Ain't it the truth.

1700 architects and engineers have risked their reputations and careers by signing a petition to reexamine the events of 9/11 based on evidence of controlled demolition. In my opinion you have no business taking a position on this matter if you haven't looked at what they present.

http://ae911truth.org/

Just going by the number of hat tips you are getting the silent majority, like myself are on your side of this argument. I Personally would prefer smashing my skull into a brick wall than participate in any 911 discussion on a forum.  I guess I am just a paranoid simpleton. Oh well...

@emaN - When I was challenged a year ago to look into the WTC7 issue, I was directed to that website. I contacted several engineer (civil) and architects in my state to ask them at length what their thoughts were and for research. MOST were ambivalent about the issues 10 years after the fact, and of those that were still convinced of the "inside job", not one could direct me to a paper that has been presented in an established journal run be organizations like the ASME,  AIA, or ASTM. There only is "The Journal of 9/11 Truth" that I keep getting pointed to. This is hardly an unbiased forum.

So I have done my research and I have concluded that there is no proof that I would hang my hat on as a professional.

T - Mosley

You can blow fairy dust out of yer arse it doesn't change physics.  NIST admitted freefall for 8 stories or more during the WTC7 collapse, which curiously was announced premature.   For the nature of the collapses and explosives used, I'll refer you to AE911 truth, and Dr. Niels Harrit's peer reviewed work.

Less known but perhaps more incriminating were the Israeli Nationals arrested on 9/11 for...

* EXPLODING a truck on King St. between 6th and 7th

* Attempting to drive a truck onto the GW bridge filled with EXPLOSIVES

* Documenting and Celebrating the attacks at the Doric Towers parking lot across the Hudson

Listen to the NYPD transmission, read the FBI doc 'Dancing Israelis', watch the reports about the GW bridge... or don't. 

NYPD transmission "9/11 mural van"

FBI document on detained Israelis

http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2011/08/official-2001-fbi-d...

Harvey Organ seems to agree with the Jackass' thoughts regarding JP Morgan and their derivatives:Harvey believes that the panicked reactions of multiple federal regulatory agencies indicates that JP Morgan’s losses are likely much more critical and severe than the mere $8 billion lost in the IG9 tranche, and states the data indicates JP Morgan is unwinding a portion of its $50 Trillion in interest rate swaps.

Harvey fears that the losses on JP Morgan’s interest rate swaps could already be $100 billion, and ‘COULD BRING DOWN THE WHOLE FINANCIAL SYSTEM OF THE WORLD!‘

Harvey states ‘If JP Morgan’s involved it really is The Fed itself, and if The Fed’s blowing up that will just about be THE explosion heard throughout the world.‘
 

http://www.silverdoctors.com/harvey-organ-jpm-unwinding-irswaps-losses-could-bring-down-the-whole-financial-system/

Didn't Willie call this first here 2-3 weeks ago?

The problem with current trading environment is that too much volume is in too few hands, AND those hands talk behind the scenes, directly, and now indirectly through their momo following computers with HFT as a subterfuge.    Regular people just can't get on these super fast moves, yet the computers can blast away with some HFT as a signal to other computers....hey lets get ready to rape the public, and then boom momo run all in coordination, and without those pesky incriminating phone calls and emails or skypes.

YOU GOT TO LOVE THE TECHNICIANS AT A TIME LIKE THIS

The system is so beyond saving, its still funny reading and watching the TECHNICIANS explaining SUPPORT & RESISTANCE LEVELS.  Again, this diatribe is not meant for the folks I admire... just the majority who still think we have FAIR MARKETS.  The one good thing out off all this mess is the SILVER INVESTORS are starting to buy SILVER EAGLES again:

So far, MAY is the best month in 2012 besides JAN.  I thought we might see 3 million, but probably only 2.8+

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Of course they would hit you on Tuesdays at some point. They build up your confidence over a long period of time and then destroy it when it hurts you the most. They always let you have a little fun over a long period of time, and then they take all the profits you made in a very short period of time.

They do it in the long term, the medium term, and the short term. For example, pretty much all of the up-move from 2000 to 2008 was taken from you in a couple of months. An example for the medium term would be that pretty much all of the up-move from the breakout in fall of 2010 was taken from you in the Mayday massacre.

And since most traders are levered up, in the end they always lose more than they initially made.

Why anyone would still care about these markets and try to interpret them is beyond me. TA is a steaming pile of donkey shit, all it will do is ensure you lose all your money. And pattern recognition doesn't work either because they let you discover a pattern and have fun with it for a while, then when you're in your comfort zone they change the pattern to the exact opposite.

If anything, you can trade by the COT numbers. If you look at LCNS vs PM prices, lows in LCNS almost always mean lows in PM prices.

Have been telling you all for months and months, but no you were smarter ;)

- Markus / stoneeh

While it sure looks like JPM could self destruct from interest rate swaps, seems both Harvey and Jim Willie believe that it is the lack of physical metal in London that will end the suppression, according to them the Morgue needs some phyzz to suppress, they cannot do it after the physical supply in London is exhausted.  Jim Willie says

"The important element in the gutting process is the gold cartel cannot defend their naked short gold position without gold physical metal. They use leverage nowadays to defend it, and lately extreme leverage since their base is shrinking significantly. Without the base collateral for leverage, they are vulnerable to attack. Without the base physical gold collateral for defense, they are doubly vulnerable, if not helpless."

How JPM got turned over (mind you, I'd still keep following where that money that got "won" goes in case).

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/how-boaz-weinstein-and-hedge-...

a snippettillo

Such standoffs are not uncommon on Wall Street. An aggressive trader makes a wrongheaded bet, then doubles down to scare off competitors on the other side of the trade. Market rivals often get slapped down, unwilling to keep buying as the other side is selling, or vice versa. For traders with the backing of a major bank, like JPMorgan, the task is much easier.

But not always. Sometimes, the other side sits tight, then hits back in force. And it does so in numbers.