Quick Update
Here comes a stream of consciousness. Probably not a good idea but here goes.
I think this is all a big setup. However, this time, it's an opposite setup to what we're used to.
The action this week seems to be a coordinated effort to suck in and trap as many spec shorts as possible ahead of tomorrow.
Every headline this week that could possibly be used to raid the gold market has been utilized.
Today is the latest example but note that the dollar was declining and silver was flat.
The decline after the claims number was released was on less than 2000 contracts. The Cartel pulled their bids and allowed the WOPRs to quickly drop price through some sell stops at 1640. This process has continued to this moment as gold has now made a low near 1635.
This final drop was worked in around the London PM fix and now gold will likely trade sideways to higher the rest of the day as WOPR positions are squared before the close.
The stage is now set for a massive short squeeze tomorrow. Look, I have no idea what the BLSBS will be. How could I know? Maybe we'll get 7.9%, 250,000 jobs and $100 down in gold. I have no idea. What I do know, however, is this: Today reeks of a final suck-in of shorts ahead of the number. Does The Cartel know what the number will be? Maybe. I can tell you this: The likelihood of them knowing ahead of time is infinitely higher than the likelihood of me knowing.
With so many weak handed longs stopped out this week, there are really none left. And now, all of the weak hands are on the short side. They look ripe to be squeezed.
A spike tomorrow, post the BLSBS, looks likely. Just as how The EE allowed the final silver spec longs to be drawn in on Feb 28 ahead of The Leap Day Beatdown, The Gold Cartel has allowed the final gold spec shorts to be drawn in today.
A spike tomorrow will cause extreme pressure on the gold shorts. A move back toward 1660 and beyond will cause them to cover. London is closed on Monday. This may cause additional shorts to cover. Would you want to be short over the weekend if NFP comes in at under 100,000?
Our pal Andy just sent me an email informing me that Shanghai silver traded with a premium to futures of $1.26 overnight! $1.26!. There is serious to extreme physical demand near $30 for silver. The paper market for silver is a joke and is being made obsolete. Anyone short silver is playing with fire.
Andy also told me of huge sovereign and central bank orders for physical at 1635 and 1625, though we were both surprised at the willingness to fill the orders at 1645. Every time The Cartel takes paper gold down, they lose more physical metal out the back door. This cannot continue much longer. It simply cannot.
Uncle Ted kicks ass. Here's an excerpt from his latest:
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Accumulating physical
I am accumulating physicals via proxies of PSLV and CEF. No worry about theft, vault or storage. Also, I have some gold and silver bars stored in London with Goldmoney.com.
What do you guys think?
Wondered, welcome to the
Wondered, welcome to the T'Ville.. So sorry to hear of your losses. Life is full of them.
Many residents have had their share of lost metals.. Me included
This will be interesting...
Dubya Is Back
http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/205607.html
Norwegian Day Traders Cleared of Wrongdoing
The two men were handed suspended prison sentences for market manipulation in 2010 after they worked out how the computerised system would react to certain trading patterns -- allowing them to influence the price of low-volume stocks.
Their appeal against that ruling was upheld by the Norwegian Supreme Court on Wednesday, which cleared them of market manipulation. The verdict will please the trading community in Norway, which had come to view the duo as Robin Hood figures, beating the big financial houses at their own game. ..........
MORE :-
http://www.gata.org/node/11316
@ recaptureamerica
It is the hardest loss I have ever had to face. Sometimes I wonder if we all are just doomed to have bad luck, but, we can always think of the wonderful records played on AM radio back in the 60's
Any of you old enough to remember The Old Philosopher?
Heading off to see if I can find a link to his humour.
wonderer
sorry to hear of the tragedy. At least you can start to replenish at these bargain-basement prices.
Fondler
I am sitting here tonight fondling an ounce of gold. This is great stuff! Very heavy for it's size. 10 oz could be easily hidden. I think I want to get more of it.
I like silver, but I like the gold better.
Everyone should have some!
The Old Philosoper
Here we go! Looking for more...
@NW View
I can relate to your "unknown language" statement. I was out marketing the business today and in the car after checking the spot price I mentioned I wish I could go to the LCS to BTFD before we get a FUBM. And then had to translate for my listener....
The Real Debate On Gold And
The Real Debate On Gold And Money
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/real-debate-gold-and-money
@wonderer
The “old grannies” I know as a whole are a whole hell of a lot more in touch than the typical two-legged bleating, wooly milk drinkers that run around living big mac to big mac without a clue or silver eagle to their name... I, for one, enjoy hearing what the seasoned among us have to say. Thanks for sharing.
Whaaaat? Did that ticker just say 29 something??
@CA - Pocket Change
My dad had a silver dollar he always carried around in his pocket with his change. I remember him showing it to me as a little kid. It was worn smooth. No date, nothing recognizable at all. Last year when he was visiting he mentioned it and I had forgotten all about it, so I asked him to show me. He has it in his wallet now - hidden away. He pulled it out and suddenly it all came back. Part good luck, all real money. He is 81 now, but silver is still silver. He is the one that got me into coin collecting right before the switch in 1965. I thank him for it.
Can you imagine bugging out with these?
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/thieves-stealing-manhole-covers-york-city-utili...
EU PLOT TO SCRAP
EU PLOT TO SCRAP BRITAIN
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/318045/EU-plot-to-scrap-Britain
another "Old Philosopher" for us
Seems helpful
Click pic if necessary
To California Lawyer
CL - I have enjoyed messaging with you. I know you are very busy in the IE.
I am currently in OC and want to respond to your message about the ASE response.
Maybe I am getting too jaded, but I gave up talking to other people about ASE and commodities last year.
I know people who are upset about the down turn last year because they only recently figured out what was going on, then bought in too heavy and too much at the wrong time. If they hadn't gone in like that, they would be fine. Instead, they became fiat cannon fodder for the Federal Reserve Banks.
FRB is so strong that they can lie through their teeth and get every damn pension plan backed by state bonds/corp bonds. The executives will be paying the workers back with devalued Federal Reserve Notes and they know it! They already are moving on the low interest bonds and readying for the next dip in the economy. You can see how it's being shaped between IE and OC.
Phoenix is another indicator.
While I love my neighbors and my friends and my family, I am not willing to be cannon fodder. Because I already believe that the SHTF scenarios are in play, many of my closest friends and family are moving from southern california to other areas.
I know many other US citizens who are in the process. It appears that many people are evaluating the closing doors of exit and are feeling like it's not worth being in the walls of a giant jail yard. It's better to be outside and innovate.
The situation is a mirage here in OC.
The banks constantly reject new loans and the refinances are in. The foreclosure litigation situation seems to me to be tied into the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac backstop on the big mortgage banks. As these players redo the residential mortgages, the US taxpayer is going on the hook for billions more in exposure.
I can not fathom how the US taxpayers can bail out the banks for a third time when the next down leg hits.
Therefore, I have stopped carrying ASE's and will no longer comment on silver or gold holdings.
Essentially, all such "inventory" has sunk to the bottom of the ocean and is buried in mud slides.
Oh well... woe is me. I'll have to go buy a few more to replace the "lost inventory".
It's a big world and we have a lot to live for... screw the bastards.
If the government is going to financially repress the people, we need a way to move on with life and tell the idiots to go find another family to mess with.
Billionaire Hugo Salinas
Billionaire Hugo Salinas Price - Elites Plan to Control the World
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2012/5/3_Bil...
Dr. G
I would like a try at your questions.
1. I will sell some of my stash when I see a deal for a hard asset that I need. I do want to pass some along to the kids.
2. The sell sign will be the buying mania I've read about.
3. Land with water, trees, and room to grow.
4. I will probably take some down the other side. I was born poor so I might as well give it to the kids and die poor also.
5. Rich and poor are difficult terms to wrap my head around. I was born into a family with little to no money but we were never poor. When I was a kid, $200,000 a year sounded like really big money. In CA today, that's barely enough for the wife and I to cover the bills. I would dearly love to pass on my knowledge to my children (however, at 7 and 8, they know more about farming and real money than most adults I know) so they can live as burden free a life as I can give them.
ps Hey Turd, my father once gave me advise on how to deal with undesirable scallywags; "Fuck um, and if you don't want to, piss on um!" (My dad's a real poet.)
recapture re real debate on gold and money
from your ZH link:
" The Great Moderation itself (the asset bubbles, credit production and, above all, interest rate targeting) would never have been possible without central bankers controlling not only the supply of money, but also its very definition.
A gold standard in whatever form represents a decentralized paradigm of monetary control, the true expression of the free-est marketplace. You may argue that such a paradigm is ultimately economic suicide, a pro-cyclical monetary drag on economic affairs during dislocations, but you cannot argue that the ultimate decision for that drag lies with individual persons, not central bankers. A true gold standard, one where banks may only issue “dollars” that are convertible into some specified physical quantity of gold, means that control of the money supply rests entirely within the willingness of individual economic actors to exchange real money (gold) for paper dollars (currency). That is the ultimate monetary power."
That is so well expressed - a keeper for future reference. Thanks.
Dear Jim
Jim, have you heard of seasons and Nikolai Kondratiev? Can I please get your opinion on the Facebook IPO and
new technology? Please check out this link when you get a free moment. Thanks. Johnnydow.
Answer:
Coiled spring, QE to infinity, Manipulation. Buy Buy Buy...
My Favorite "Old Philosopher"
Will Rogers: Quotes On Politics And Life
Will Rogers
On 4 November 1879, Will Rogers was born on Dog Iron Ranch near Oologa, Oklahoma. He’s known as Oklahoma’s favorite son.
Politics:
If I had any PM's
If i actually was a stacker, I would be feeling pretty good right about now. That painful cry of the masses to me would signal a buying opportunity. I would probably dip a toe in if I were a stacker. I would probably look at the chart in amazement and say how well the craziest red head on the block was behaving. 30$ was a pipe dream not all that long ago. If I had any PM's at all, the thought of selling today would never enter my mind, BUYING would be filling it. If I were in favor of sound money, this is what I would be doing, BUT alas I bought BAC today on the dip hot and heavy because I know they are reputable and will give me a nice return and make me sleep better at night. (almost typed JPM- but just couldn't do it)
zpring your proxies
Are the next best thing to having it within reach. When people refer to 'paper gold' this isn't what they mean.
When to sell
Loads of good feedback on the 5 questions so far.
There will be a clear sign that it's time to drag the lake for those bars and coins, love them a bit, and get ready to ease them back to the rest of the population:
When BILLY BOB GOLD BUYER changes his sign to BILLY BOB GOLD SELLER.
Each time I visit Billy Bob's I see people selling granny's sterling place settings, dad's 25-years-at-Ford gold watch, some shitty chain they got for graduation, and the gold rings they stole in a break-in the night before. The line-up is pretty long, and everyone's clutching a plastic grocery store bag with about 500 bucks worth of crap that they're going to get 50 bucks for before heading off to the liquor store.
They look at me like I'm a lunatic at that other small counter that takes up 5% of the store filled with Maples, gold bars, sovereigns, ASE's, and about $100,000 worth of JM, Sunshine, MH etc. silver bars. I count out 9 of those strange new see-thru rubber Canuck fiat hundreds, discretely pop a tube of Maples in my coat, look them straight in the eye like a badass, and scoot.
Some day, that bullion counter will take up 95% of the store. Instead of the drunks, poor, and criminals, the store will be filled with my neighbors and co-workers. They will look at me like I'm a low-life as I stand at the tiny 'sell' counter and plop a couple of Maples back on the glass.
Yep, that's how you know it's about time to sell.
re: Vermilion. Price manipulation
Exactly! Argumentation about FUTURE shortages and possible disconnect sounds logical, but current situation is that you can use many venues to buy physical metal (bullion, bars, Eagles, generic, WHATEVER) without any problem. That is a fact and you can easily check it by going to the web and/or calling large bullion dealers like Apmex and Golddealer.
Here is another idea: go to LCS. Mine is in Cupertino, CA (near headquarters of Apple Inc.) is almost always empty - people don't give a fuck ... so what is the reason for shortages? Institutional investors, industrials, big money? Use Comex and take delivery!
Some time ago when I pointed to Turd that he can easily go and fulfill any order at large dealer he responded to me with remark like What the heck do you know in your small world? There are powerful buyers with a lot of money who have to pay extra premium compared to us mere mortals to get their gold. Good argument, isn't it, considering vast availability of phyzz to masses that ALWAYS pay more premium on goods compared to powerful buyers.
Availability of physical metals for delivery brings up very simple question: "If price is manipulated to make it lower, why rich people - we have millions of millionaires - don't take advantage of it?" Things like massive dumps of futures DO point to manipulation, but the question remains if it's TRUE manipulation why rich guys don't use it to get richer. Manipulate AAPL to 100 bucks a share and see what would happen - fucking stampede...
In any case, I appreciate the work of Turd and community. I hope that we are all on the right track.
Thank you.
Kondratiev wave
i was just thinking of looking at Kondratiev versus some commods and indicies to get some long term perspective 55years. All the manipulation and TPTB talk should not have us worried. there always was and there will always be tptb. we are at a point in time where there will be a change in tptb. we will be like straws on the camel's back (although camel is to noble for them). they will be crushed patience patience patience. who ends up on top is anyone's guess. we are just trying to preserve what we have. Stack, trade, mine or troll it is all good. maybe you like the Turds TA, maybe the stories of the stacks (or tails of tragic boating accidents), or the research of various miners, maybe a little ping pong with trolls strengthens your resolve. the bottom line is you know why you are here. This site is great. Nothing has changed fundamentally stay within your plan!!!
Oh Baby!!!!
It's like livin' in Loooseeeanna all over again! I remember that guy. I remember 60's AM radio. I love you!
Thank you for coming out! Sorry for your loss, too.
Scoobies