The Black Mass and Our Future Feral Society


Many of us who are of a spiritual bent are rightfully concerned about the very public Black Mass going on in Oklahoma this weekend. For those of you who aren't, let me explain why you should be concerned, and how this event relates to various collapse scenarios.

Let's set aside the supernatural dynamite you are playing with when you call upon dark forces. (I'll just comment that you are really stupid if you do so, and I myself suffered greatly after playing around with a Ouija board in high school.)

One of my biggest fears isn't that we are going to have a financial collapse today that will render everyone in ruins. It's what our world is going to look like in 40 years - and who is going to be running it.

I'm going to be America-centric here, so apologies to our foreign readers. But I believe these observations apply to most people in the Western world - or what we might have to start calling the "Post-Western World."

Let me ask you: What kind of world would you like to live in? Do you want to be surrounded by people who are genuinely kind,  respectful, and have a semblance of concern for their fellow man? Or would you prefer to be living in a world filled with hedonists, narcissists, and nihilists who simply feel they need to "get theirs" before they die?

I know I'd prefer the former. And generally speaking, that sort of culture is fostered by some sort of morality. Now yes, atheists can be moral (my father is an atheist), and quite a few atheists realize that some religion is actually good in that it helps provide people with a moral compass. It's perhaps a positive development that some atheists have started their own "churches" that follow a set of secular humanist ideals and moral codes.

So I'm less concerned about the average atheist who might tend to be a peace-loving libertarian. I'm more concerned about people who aren't full-on atheists but who are either spiritually unaware or drawn to the dark side. Many people who are "unchurched" in America are not interested in any moral code, much less an atheist one. The unchurched who are "spiritual" tend to follow a narcissistic spirituality inspired by Satan himself: It's all about me, and what I manifest into my life. I'm God.

The problem is this: To be a libertarian atheist requires some brains, and most people simply aren't that smart. So you've got a lot of people who need something to drive them, and it's these folks who are the most easily led astray. These folks need religion, but they need a good religion.

I know some of you are going to comment that all religion is bad and has caused more wars and death than anything else in history. No, sorry, that award goes to Communism, which killed more people in the 20th century (over 100 million) than any other ideology in the world before and since.

To suggest that all religions are equally bad is to be a simplistic, black-and-white thinker with no ability to perceive nuance. Lest you think I am just going to be pro-Christianity here, let me state for the record that I'd be fairly heartened to see America's youth take up Buddhism - but a real, spiritual Buddhism - not the kind of atheistic, angry Buddhism that some hipsters use to become holier than thou.

China previously became a rich, powerful culture under thousands of years of Buddhism. It was Mao Tse Tung's Communism in the 20th century that destroyed Chinese culture. Only now are the Chinese trying to retake their rich heritage.

Here in the West, the decline and fall of Western civilization is directly related to the decline of mainline Christianity. You can slice or dice it all you want, but the fewer people we have going to church, the more decadent and stupid we've become. Smart atheists recognize this and the value that a Christian morality provided to society.

It has become fairly cool to bash Christianity these days. Christians and Jews are two of the only acceptable targets for hate-mongering in America - but heaven forbid you criticize a bloody jihadist. What has happened is that a lot of people from my generation (X) and younger have eschewed church for a more "tolerant" lifestyle, which involves more drugs, more sex, and more selfish indulgences.

I lived in this cultural environment for a long-time in Los Angeles. No-one that I was friends with went to Christian church there. The best people that I knew went with me to a New Thought "spiritual center," and were fairly bright lights in the darkness. But I knew far too many lost souls.

I think of one guy I dated briefly, who was a real piece of work. I figured out quickly that he was not only a bit of an alcoholic, but on at least one anti-depressant, and he was sullen and liked to watch E! Entertainment - because he had no higher interests. He was selfish, self-absorbed, and treated me abominably. That ended quickly with my blowing up at him for being a jerk.

Like many young men in Los Angeles, he was a total user of women, and had no moral code to speak of other than self-pleasure. Many of the women I knew in Los Angeles were not much better, and were focused on personal vanity, obtaining the spotlight, and using their bodies to get things from the men in their lives. The key word I would use to describe most of these people would be "selfish." A lot of these people were on drugs and into their 30s and beyond living like messy college students and partying. And these were the mainstream people in Hollywood.

While Hollywood tends to be hardly representative of the rest of the country, it does lead the country due to its powerful hold on the media. I just think back to all of the drama and emotional dysfunction I endured (including my own) during my 20s and 30s in Hollywood. Most everyone I knew was a bit of a "hot mess." These are not people who are poised to make a difference in the world. On the contrary, they are desperately sucking out whatever life they can get from everyone and everything around them.

One of the reasons I returned to Christianity in my late 30s was that I was tired of the nihilism and narcissism around me. Christianity appeals to me in that it ideally teaches you to be a better person - to have character.

"Character" is an old-fashioned term these days that people might tend to sneer at. But "character" is what built this country - those traits of hard work, charity, frugality, loyalty and restraint.

The best religions teach self-restraint in the pursuit of higher goals. This includes Christianity, Buddhism, and Sikhism.

The worst religions either demand compliance through rigid, arbitrary rules designed to control their followers by force (including fundamentalist Islam and the FLDS) or throw restraint totally out the window (Satanism).

Without restraint, we cannot have a functioning society. The very reason we are in such massive dire straights in America today is because of lack of restraint. The Federal debt has a direct correlation with the destruction of character in America. We have lost our ability to appreciate the value of frugality, restraint, and common sense.

Now, progressives in America feel they own the value of "charity," however, charity without restraint is simply immature, foolish, and destined to backfire. It is in many ways not true charity at all - because a charity born from a bottomless pit of debt requires no sacrifice. It is therefore not done out of self-sacrifice and cannot properly be called charity. It is easy to give away money you don't own.

So back to our Satanists. They are part of a greater trend in America to glamorize the dark side of the paranormal. Hey, I appreciate a ghost story like a lot of people, but I'm getting a little creeped out at the sheer volume of teen paranormal romance books on the market today. Far too many teens are being fed with the idea that it's glamorous to be in love with a vampire, werewolf, or actual demon.

There will always be one dominant "morality" in any society, and if the tables turn too much towards the dark side, we could see days ahead when more and more teens are becoming "Craigslist Killers," where stray animals will be routinely used for sacrifice, and locking our doors at night will not be enough to keep out the Clockwork Orange marauders from stealing your possessions or raping your wife (and you).

q?_encoding=UTF8&ASIN=B000QRIGLW&Format=Think I'm overblowing things? Well, just compare what is sold as "entertainment" these days to what most people enjoyed 30, 40 and 50 years ago. For pete's sake, mild-mannered Lawrence Welk used to have one of the most popular and longest running shows on television. Now HBO fills every show it does with pornography and explicit violence. You think this has no effect on people? Really? Why do advertisers spend so much money on 30-second ad spots during the Superbowl? If one 30-second ad can have that much impact, then what is the impact of watching hours and hours of sadistic pornography or playing violent video games by yourself?

Don't kid yourself. The long-term effective of toxic media, lack of morality, and broken homes could be a populace that has turned completely feral. We're seeing it already in the inner cities.

I can only hope that as people get sick of the darkness, like I did, they will turn back towards the light. What do you think?

P.S. For those interested in symbols, please note the double triangles (aka "pyramids") and giant "eye" on the  Clockwork Orange poster. For more information on media symbolism, check out Vigilant Citizen.

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Black ribbon-furst place

Black ribbon-furst place.

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Raise you 2 silver  eagles,or

Raise you 2 silver  eagles,or take my thurd place.

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OK I,ll use this space for a

OK I,ll use this space for a real comment,even though I am a pesky *foreigner*.

These TV marauders will kill each other first,before the nazis,private and public,police,kill the rest.I don't even have a TV,so I am immunised against this filth.I would have to actively seek it out on the net.Then I would feel so bad,ill and lost,that I would not return to that.Like eating junk food, when it overwhelms you with sick feelings.In fact,I bet the two are deliberately linked to do that very thing to us.As for God,He is very private and personal to me and I don't discuss His wisdom in case some fool wants to denigrate Him,which would only raise my wrath and fight.


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Thank you Stephanie

For this article, and taking a stand.  I'm curious though, why do you say Chinese culture was more Buddhist than Tao? 

FWIW, I've read that the current Chinese Communist government is actually trying to replace Communist ideology with Taoist principles in society.

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Russ Dizdar has a lot to say about SRA...


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I happen to personally know a "Gen Xer" whose parents were (and still are) 100% New Age Spiritualist, anything goes, (recreational drugs, open marriage) L.A./Hollywood natives, who is totally the antithesis of his parents, whereas many of his peers with similar parents, turned out to be carbon copies of same.

I often wonder in such cases, what is the actual catalyst whereby one's own self esteem overrides either peer pressure, environment, and/or base impulses to strive to accomplish something meaningful and productive with their own life in spite of the bad examples being set around them, whereas many others don't mature until much, much later, or otherwise continually spiral down until finally meeting a premature death.

Thankfully I never had to face such, as my father would have simply stomped my a** into the ground, without as much as placing a rock for tombstone over me.

Fear seemed to have worked quite well, as well as kick starting one's commonsense and self preservation tendencies at an early age.

Ergo, my own progeny likewise learned to keep their snot lockers squared away at a very early age as well.

Cheers, S. Rex

Edit: BTW First Reader  to Hat Tip the Author   cheekycheekycheeky Have a Nice Day angel

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Man arrested for poisoning over 40 cats in Tokyo's Ota Ward

TOKYO —Police in Tokyo’s Ota Ward said Friday they have arrested a 33-year-old man in connection with over 40 dead cats found in the ward since April.

NTV reported that the suspect, identified as Shinya Kuboki, was arrested for strangling a cat in a parking lot in Omorinishi early Thursday morning. When questioned by police, Kuboki admitted that he had four other dead cats in the basket on the front of his bicycle.

Police said Kuboki, who is a computer programmer, has admitted to killing about 45 cats in the ward. He said he laced cat food with a pesticide.

The cats were found dead in parks and on streets between April and Aug 18. In some cases, the cats had some kind of foaming drooling from the mouth. Some of the cats were residents’ pets, but most were strays.

All the cats were found dead within a 500-meter radius between Omorinishi 6-chome and Kamata 2-chome. Cat food was found beside beside the bodies.

Kuboki was quoted by police as saying that he likes cats but he got really irritated by local residents feeding stray cats and wanted to keep their population down, NTV reported. He also has a pet cat at home.

Police said Kuboki has been charged with violating the animal protection law.

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Peak,Prosperity -- Assets and Liabilities

Mr. Fix's picture

Good way to murder patriotic soldiers:

Putting our troops and their families at risk.

Scientific Evidence Proves Ebola Is Airborne and Our Liberian Bound Troops Are Walking Into a Death Trap

On the surface, the Presidential order to send 3,000 military personnel to Ebola-ridden is nothing but sheer lunacy. This 3 day old order have left people scratching their heads  and wondering if Obama has lost his mind. This article will shed light on the fact that Obama is acting with depraved indifference and the evidence is clear, Ebola is much more contagious than the government ..

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great post stephanie

I turned off my tv long ago. Don't miss it. For an interesting read about Satan,  I suggest Lewis' Screwtape Letters.

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The Synogogue of Satan is Spelled Out for those who can READ

Christian, huh?

Look at this "hate" speech by Jesus Christ (an Arab Jew by BLOOD) ....

I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. -Rev 2:9

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. -Rev 3:9

Are Arab Muslims falsely claiming to be Jews? No. What about the Persians? No. Does Putin say he's Jewish? No. Did Bin Laden? No. Quick help me out here people because I'm running out of synagogue of satan candidates.....

Wasn't Shem the olive-skinned Arab? So when did Jews become................................white? Wasn't Japheth the white one and Ham the black one? Oh hell with it.

PS. For anybody thinking about, take your hate card and shove it up your ass.

Marcus's picture

Thank God I'm an atheist

Safety Dan's picture

Thank you Stephanie for

Thank you Stephanie for taking a stand. 

Here's another interesting bit of info...

The DHS strategies for quarantines and subsequent martial law are leaking out. This is what is coming,

The Common Sense Show

The DHS strategies for quarantines and subsequent martial law are leaking out. This is what is coming,

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Turkey, Azerbaijan break ground for Trans-Anatolian Gas Pipeline

Turkey's energy minister has declared a gas pipeline a "peace corridor" linking the Caucasus with the Balkans.

"We open the project as a peace corridor that is the result of 15 years hard work by Turkey and Azerbaijan. Through the South Caucasus pipeline and its backbone, the Trans-Anatolia pipeline, we connect the Caucasus with the Balkans. I wish every country could understand the true value of these projects and contribute with us," Taner Yıldız said while speaking at the groundbreaking ceremony of the South Caucasus pipeline in Baku on Sept. 20.

The minister said energy security "ranks as one of the main topics of global agenda" and dialogue between countries producing, transporting and consuming energy is "highly important." He added: "With this view in mind, we continue to develop projects with our friends, Azerbaijan and Georgia." 26018391.jpgThe South Caucasus pipeline is the first phase of the Southern Gas Corridor, which will carry gas from the Caspian Sea to Turkey, connecting to the Trans-Anatolia natural gas pipeline via Georgia and reach southern Europe.

"TANAP [The Trans-Anatolian Gas Pipeline] is not a mere investment but a project for the future. We believe that the project is a way of establishing strong, sustainable and healthy relations both between Turkey and Azerbaijan and other European countries," Yıldız added.


Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev, Georgian Prime Minister Irakli Garibasvili, Bulgarian President Rosen Plevneliev, Greek Prime Minister Antonis Samaras and Montenegro's Prime Minister Milo Cukanovic also took part in the ceremony.

"We will have extra income by opening our natural gas to the world market and European countries will have a new energy resource? There is no loser in this project, everybody will win," Aliyev said. The TANAP, the first phase of the $45 billion worth Southern Gas Corridor, is expected to begin operations by 2018 with a 16 billion cubic meter capacity.

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Reminder of name of the film

Which is about Saudis pulling their money out of the markets and finishes with an empty trading floor? Made in the 70's I have remembered and forgotten the title so many times its does seem to relate to the movie and may have contributed to its success or otherwise.


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edit: the link is not the movie, just the page with the movie's information.

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I am a libertarian

Who is officially Jedi on the census; what does that say about me?

I believe folks can follow a religion but really its a crutch to support them through the difficulties if life. No religion is good or bad just like supporting the 49ers is no better than the Bills. For some I know  following their team is more a religion in commitment and faith than religion itself. Why do we have to choose between believers, satanists etc why can't people just do what they want as long as it does not negatively impact on others.

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That be the one. Thanks achmachat. 1981 not far out.

Did it receive any accolades?

Does that link require registration or is the full version on youtube?

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@silverbee - consider your assumptions

Please, take a moment to really sit down and think about what you've just said:

No religion is good or bad just like supporting the 49ers is no better than the Bills.

Really? Think about this very carefully before you answer.

Which is better:

The FLDS (Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints) regularly force underage girls to marry men decades older than themselves - men who are already married to 10, 20, 30 wives - in the name of religion. Young males who aren't selected to become some of the alpha males in FLDS are regularly abandoned and dropped on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere to fend for themselves.


Tibetan Buddhism, which teaches peace and would never support the marrying off of young girls or sexual slavery.

You then ask: "why can't people just do what they want as long as it does not negatively impact on others."

Because some philosophies and religions are simply better than others. And if the world is run by Satanists (actually, some people believe it already is), you will be negatively impacted because their philosophy is one of greed and evil. Do you want to live in a world where rape and stealing and murder is A-OK? I don't.

Seriously, it blows my mind that any thinking person can honestly believe all religions and life philosophies are created equal. They are not.

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Drunk teachers ruin school trip to Hamburg

A school trip was cancelled after just one day when two teachers got so drunk while they were supposed to be looking after pupils in Hamburg that police had to be called.

Police were alerted by the youth hostel warden in the early hours of Tuesday at 4am when one of the teachers fell down the stairs, cut his head, refused help and was barely responsive.

Pupils from the school in Bramsche, Lower Saxony, told police that the two teachers had drunk a lot of alcohol throughout the evening. 

The teachers were “heavily under the influence of alcohol," a police spokesman said on Wednesday.

Police then contacted the school who seconded another teacher, who was already in Hamburg on a different school trip, to look after the group of tenth graders.

The 15 to 16 year olds were then bused 220 kilometres back home from Hamburg.

Police added that the teachers had not done anything over which they could be charged, but officers wrote to the local education authority explaining what happened.

“It is a one-off case,” an education authority spokesman said. “We are working with the school’s management on it.”

The Neue Osnbrücker Zeitung reported that parents and other teachers were shocked by the case.

“He committed an unbelievable breach of trust and ruined our children’s senior year,” one parent told the paper.

The newspaper said the two teachers had to make their own way back to Bramsche.

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You Are?

well how about that

SIlverbee's picture


I said as long as they don't negatively affect others

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Shanghai imports USD16bn gold as it launches international gold

Shanghai has imported USD15.98bn worth of gold in the first eight months of this year in time for the opening of the international board at the Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE) in the Shanghai Free Trade Zone. Last Thursday, two tonnes of gold arrived at Shanghai and was kept in a warehouse with improved customs clearance services. Since the SGE announced in June that it plans to allow foreign investment into China's gold market, gold imports passing through Shanghai's Pudong International Airport went up by 200% month on month. The SGE has been the top gold trading location in the world for 7 consecutive years, with trading volume reaching 11,600 tonnes in 2013.

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Synagogue of Satan

They are the progeny Cain, the tares, intermingled with Israel, and there they will remain until the end of this age.

ata's picture

A prayer to the Lord

Dear Lord:
This past year has been tough.

You’ve taken my favorite actor, James Garner; my favorite actress, Lauren Bacall; my favorite comedian, Robin Williams; and finally, my favorite author, Tom Clancy.

I just wanted You to know that my favorite politicians are: Bibi Netanyahu, Avigdor Lieberman, Mahmoud Abbas, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton.


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Let's hope this coming year will be even tougher!!!...


Bag Of Gold

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Not a tragedy

ata's picture

A good spanking

153991 600 Scotland Spanking cartoons

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Another great post Stephanie,

I see that you are still unafraid to venture into controversial territory, that's why I like your posts.

Seeing as we have discussed this topic before, you know upfront that we have our disagreements, and I have certain issues with some of the statements that you made in this post, (no surprise there).

It's no secret that I have huge issues with organized religion, I do not attend church, and firmly believe that any religion that dictates that they are the one and only path to God is in my book, just flat out wrong. I've spent months discussing these issues on some of the forums, with other members here, as for myself, I had not even realized  that my own spiritual beliefs could not be reconciled with mainstream Christianity, as I have been following what is widely regarded as “spiritual laws and principles” for most of my adult life, it is also no secret here, that after 12 years of  mental, spiritual and physical abuse in Catholic school, I was left spiritually bankrupt and  suicidal, although that whole “you're going to burn in hell” thing at least kept me alive long enough to actually start exploring why people believe the things they do.

I fear far less from those who have had no formal religious training than those that do, since those “true believers” have been taught to be blindly obedient to a system that has undermined mankind  for all of recorded history. It's these very same blindly obedient churchgoing citizens that will rat out “evil libertarians”, as the government continues to demand “if you see something, say something”.

These very same “ true believers” won't even know  that they are doing the bidding of pure evil.

Some people consider me “New Age”, some people consider me “occult”, and some people believe I am an atheist,  and I believe that these are just labels applied to my beliefs that were created by “the church” to make sure that anyone who strays from their “approved doctrine” be labeled and branded as some kind of  satanic lowlife who will burn in hell.

I am not concerned about any repercussions with the “Black mass”, the attendees are morons.

If they  had brains, they might be dangerous, but they have already proven that they do not.

I find it remarkable how similar  Taoism is to “New Age”, considering that both philosophies are separated by many thousands of years.   The belief that there is a universal consciousness that permeates all matter, and is a part of all things that exist and all things that do not, is not a threat to anyone, nor does it create people  with no moral compass.

If anything promotes the belief that mankind is inherently evil, it is the belief in “original sin” That somehow, we were born into this world as sinners, and that without divine intervention possible only through the right church, a man's soul can not in any way be made “good”. I am of the opinion that since life tends to reflect what is inside us (our own beliefs), this may be singularly the most destructive belief ever foisted upon us.

I agree that communism has killed more people than religion, but the scales might be tipped the other way in the very foreseeable future, as most of the genocide we are witnessing now is religious in nature, and we have not had the kind of weapons of mass destruction that we have had in the past. Also, most genocides by either religions or governments were committed with the sole intent of destroying individual liberty.

I do not believe in the entire concept of “God's wrath”, and I think the powers that be are arranging things such as a “Satanic mass” so that people will fear God, and even blame "Gods wrath" for when this all comes unglued.

If you take  Taoism, or virtually any other Eastern philosophy, it is taught that human beings are inherently good. That if you take away government, and take away religious ideologies, human beings will be free to follow their own dreams. This does not ferment  evil, according to  such an ideology, this is exactly the way human beings were designed to be by their Creator. such a belief system is only a threat to a hierarchical government, or an organized religion.

Western religious  ideology seems to me to be a collusion between church and state to instill a belief system requiring  that both a church and a state government is required to keep mankind in line.

It is even taught that without government, or religion, the human race would self-destruct.

It is my sincere belief that history has proven the opposite to be true. Both religion and government are the sole cause of mass genocide. (I do not necessarily ascribe much difference between the two).

I have stated many times that human beings were designed by their Creator to be self-governing, this is why we were given a conscience. Most of us were born with one, but as we have grown, we have learned to suppress our emotions, often with drugs or  alcohol, so that we would not feel so uncomfortable in a system that is almost completely antithetical to our own human nature. 

Yes, Western society is about to collapse, this has nothing to do with biblical prophecy, or “God's wrath”,

it is a quite predictable outcome, and the direct result of some really bad decisions made by some really selfish people. Most of them are politicians. Most politicians are owned by bankers.

The morons attending the black mass are not our enemies, in fact, I consider them irrelevant.

Those at the top of the hierarchy, the ones pulling the strings behind the politicians and church leaders are the real enemies of humanity, and what will be labeled as “God's wrath” is just a few psychopaths doing what they can to enslave the human race, and have the ultimate power trip, global domination.

The most surefire way you can tell that this “Black mass” is nothing but an elite diversionary tactic, is that it is being reported across the mainstream press. Need I say more?

Stay focused on who you are, and know thy enemy.

The people going to any kind of mass, are free to be as dumb as they please, and only they will face the consequences of their stupidity and ignorance.

Live and let live, focus on your own lives. This is not a narcissistic self-love, it is the only possible way we can learn to be who we are, part of the divine force that created everything that is. 

All human beings were created perfect, a part of the divine consciousness that permeates the entire universe. What has happened to us since, has been a carefully orchestrated   propaganda campaign to separate us from our  spirit. We are  interdimensional spiritual beings having a human experience, but few people know that.

Instead, most people perceive themselves as mere mortals trying to develop some kind of spirituality. Many have given up the pursuit, because it was a  fools errand to begin with, we have forgotten who we are.

We are here to create, We don't even have to learn anything to do that, we can create anything we can imagine. Our opponents are here to destroy. Our most important asset is our individual liberty, collectivism destroys individual achievement.

  To wrap this up, in the immortal words of Puck T. Smith,  there are only two rules to living a good life,

“Don't lie, and don't take other peoples stuff”. I have found this to be true, and I also find it interesting that it is impossible for either a government or a religion to survive by following those two basic rules.  None of them do.

Puck  considered himself an atheist, and yet from our conversations, I considered him both a moral and highly spiritual man.  

As for myself, I have as yet not assigned myself a label, it is not on my list of priorities.

( I admire controversial posts, because I've been known to do a few of my own).angel

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@ Stephanie

Well... as a resident of the San Francisco Bay Area, I am sooo relieved to see that there are whack-jobs elsewhere, and in Oklahoma City no less! 

By the way, while I don't believe that any supernatural dark forces actually exist, I think that it's a bad play to try to communicate or otherwise mess around with them.  Kind of like poking the sleeping bear to see if it's still asleep.

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