Immigration Crisis: Engineered Collapse? Or Opportunity?

So is this it? Is the engineered collapse finally starting?

With so much crazy news lately (VA scandal, outrageous Bergdahl swap, immigration crisis, Iraq falling), it seems that events are happening faster and faster.

Did you know that Russian bomber planes were just 50 yards off the California coast?

But the event that seems to be the possible trigger point is the United States allowing tens of thousands of children (and drug cartel members) across the border.

How can 35,000 swarming across Texas borders each month be sustainable? We can't even take care of our vets, but we can take care of a quarter of a million children without parents, kids who don't speak English, and who need to be in school, not stuck in detention camps?

The standard right/left spin is this: Republicans are freaking out, claiming that Democrats are doing this on purpose to get a "permanent majority." They worry that the new immigrants will all be pro-socialist and our free market system will be forever lost.

Take heart, conservatives: I think your paranoia over Hispanic immigrants is a bit over-the-top and shows the defeatist attitude you've allowed yourself to be programmed with. Hispanics aren't born with a "Vote Democrat" gene. If anything, they are much more socially conservative than the average white progressive, and not driven by white guilt or political correctness.

Most Hispanic immigrants work their butts off. I've dealt with Mexican workers for many years who have been handymen at various apartments I've lived at. They are polite, hard-working, no-nonsense, and grounded. They take pride in their work and are good at what they do. I don't see young white male hipsters doing these jobs.

Hispanics are culturally pro-family. The men are unabashedly masculine. (There's a reason why women swoon over the "Latin Lover" archetype.) I've dated a lot of Hispanic guys, and I personally think it's nice to have a guy insist on opening a door for you.

Democrats point to the low rate of Hispanics voting for Romney as somehow "proof" that they have the lock on the Hispanic vote, but c'mon, we're talking Romney here! Given the choice between Hillary Clinton and Ted Cruz, do you honestly think the average Latino is going to be pulling the lever for Hillary? Do you honestly think family-oriented, socially conservative Hispanics are going to be cheering the first transgendered family featured at the Democratic National Convention?

Mexican men (and a few women) have been busy forming their own militias to fight the drug cartels. These guys probably don't have the same knee-jerk reaction to gun control as the average white Democrat.

In short: Having more Hispanics in America (given a reasonable immigration policy) is certainly not the death knell of America, and the values of family, hard work, and God are totally in line with what conservatives want America to return to. If conservatives are concerned about Hispanic immigrants not understanding free markets, then teach them!

Hispanics are stereotyped by Democrats as being pro-big government when maybe it's not that simple: My apartment complex had to redo all the walkways to comply with ADA regulations for wheelchair access. Some of the solutions were absolutely ridiculous and involved labyrinths of criss-crossing ramps where a straight path had been previously. Two parking spaces per unit got hijacked for a handicapped spot - one for the car and a "no parking zone" next to the handicapped spot.

I was talking with one of the Hispanic workers who was painting the lines, and he commented to me about how silly the renovations were. "I don't agree with all of this," he said, waving his hand towards the "improvements." "But I just do my job."

We had a nice laugh.

The pretentious white progressive would have been waxing on and on about how great it was that now all the disabled people would have parking spots. (Never mind that no disabled people live in the building, or that the older woman who doesn't have the disabled placard now has to carry her groceries twice as far.)

I realize that was quite a long preface to discussing the current crisis, which is about how our Southern borders have basically collapsed (on purpose), and we're now looking at a Hurricane Katrina times a million in terms of a humanitarian crisis.

However, I think this could easily backfire - if the kids are left stuck in "camps" for months on end, with poor living conditions, then progressives might actually end up turning on Obama.

But maybe that doesn't matter. Maybe the elites have decided it's time to turn America into a third world country, and they just flipped the switch to start the process.

Still, I think they are underestimating the American spirit - and why Hispanics might want to come here in the first place. They did not come here to just see a repeat of the cronyism and corruption they fled from. If anything, they are like the average moderate American. They want safe neighborhoods, decent schools, and job opportunities.

I therefore buck the conservative hysteria by observing that Hispanics might actually bring more to the table than they take away. However, that means reaching out to recent immigrants as potential allies in the fight for freedom, instead of writing them off as hopeless patsies of the global elite.

Far too many conservatives have bought into the false right/left paradigm and mistakenly taken the bait offered by left-wing pundits. Frankly, I don't give a damn whether the dominant political party is called "Democrat" or "Republican" provided it offers sane, fiscally smart policies. Parties evolve. The Democratic Party used to be more moderate. it is now very far-left. The Republican Party is currently being taken over by libertarians and Tea Party advocates. Parties change.

If Hispanics become the dominant force in the Democratic Party, I predict that white progressives will eventually regret it - because "gay marriage" for example will no longer be a priority, and abortion and birth control may be totally taken out of the platform.

But I digress. The big problem in America is not that this party or that party is "winning," but that both parties have been corrupted. Progressives get their buttons pushed on issues like gun control and gender issues. Conservatives get their buttons pushed on issues like immigration. And the elites stay in control.

And while I'm not downplaying the severity of the current immigration crisis by any means - it could seriously take down the country quickly - we need to stop whining and start looking to create more allies. Each person who comes here from a corrupt, failing state is a person who might be open to learning about the empowering nature of self-sufficiency, the "why" behind precious metals, and the value of freedom.

Go out and talk to people and start your own revolution.

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Bsong's picture

Manufactured 

Manufactured 

metalsbyamile's picture

Its all about

politics, yes?

Nana's picture

Planned

A Cloward and Piven tactic..

sierra skier's picture

Living in California

Living in California I am so over illegal immigration. California has probably the most progressive welfare benefit system in the country and the folks who wish to work the benefit system seem to migrate here. The budget deficit in the state is probably about the same as our cost of all the illegal immigrants benefits, legal, medical, schooling, uninsured motorists insurance and whatever else they cost.

Arizona appears to be seeing the blunt of the new arrivals. Obama has been angered by the response by Arizona Governor Janice Brewer's response to the feds not controlling the border and attempting to do so in house. Obama was so mad he had a lawsuit filed in response too Arizona authorities attempting to control the problem.

We need to take care of our in house issues before we care take the entire world.

metalsbyamile's picture

Maybe they come for this: Golf Balls

Golf Balls!

Receptionist: Hello, Welcome to ObamaGolf. My name is Trina. How
can I help you?

Customer: Hello, I received an email from Golfsmith stating that my
Pro V1 order has been canceled and I should go to your exchange
to reorder it. I tried your web site, but it seems like it is not
working. So I am calling the 800 number.

Receptionist: Yes, I am sorry about the web site. It should be
fixed by the end of 2014. But I can help you.

Customer: Thanks, I ordered some Pro V1 balls.

Receptionist: Sir, Pro V1's do not meet our minimum standards, I
will be happy to provide you with a choice of Pinnacle, TopFlite,
or Callaway Blue.

Customer: But I have played Pro V1 for years.

Receptionist: The government has determined that Pro V1s are no
longer acceptable, so we have instructed Titleist to stop making
them. TopFlites are better, sir, I am sure you will love them.

Customer: But I like the Pro V1.  Why are TopFlites better?

Receptionist: That is all spelled out in the 2700 page "Affordable
Golf Ball Act" passed by Congress.

Customer: Well, how much are these TopFlites?

Receptionist: It depends sir, do you want our Bronze, Silver,
Gold or Platinum package?

Customer: What's the difference?

Receptionist: 12, 24, 36 or 48 balls.

Customer: The Silver package may be okay; how much is it?

Receptionist: It depends, sir; what is your monthly income?

Customer: What does that have to do with anything?

Receptionist: I need that to determine your government Golf Ball
subsidy; then I can determine how much your out-of-pocket cost
will be.  But if your income is below the poverty level, you might
qualify for a subsidy. In that case, I can refer you to our BallAid
department.

Customer: BallAid?

Receptionist: Yes, golf balls are a right. Everyone has a right to
golf balls. So, if you can't afford them, then the government will
supply them free of charge.

Customer: Who said they were a right?

Receptionist: Congress passed it, the President signed it and the
Supreme Court found it Constitutional.

Customer: Whoa.....I don't remember seeing anything in the
Constitution regarding golf balls as a right.

Receptionist: There's no explicit mention of golf balls in the
Constitution, but President Obama is a former constitutional scholar
and he believes it would have been included if the Constitution had
not been drafted by a bunch of slave-owning white men. The Democrats
in the Congress and the Supreme Court agree with the President that
golf balls are now a right guaranteed by the Constitution.

Customer: I don't believe this...

Receptionist: It's the law of the land, sir. Now, we anticipated
most people would go for the Silver Package, so what is your monthly
income, sir?

Customer: Forget it, I think I will forgo buying balls this year.

Receptionist: In that case, sir, I will still need your monthly
income.

Customer: Why?

Receptionist: To determine what your 'non-participation' cost
would be.

Customer: WHAT? You can't charge me for NOT buying golf balls.

Receptionist: It's the law of the land, sir, approved by the Supreme
Court. It's $49.50 or 1% of your monthly income.....

Customer:(interrupting) This is ridiculous, I'll pay the $49.50.

Receptionist: Sir, it is the $49.50 or 1% of your monthly income,
whichever is greater.

Customer: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? What a ripoff!!

Receptionist: Actually sir, it is a good deal. Next year it will
be 2%.

Customer: Look, I'm going to call my Congressman to find out what's
going on here. This is ridiculous. I'm not going to pay it.

Receptionist: Sorry to hear that sir, that's why I had the NSA
track this call and obtain the make and model of the cell phone
you are using.

Customer: Why does the NSA need to know what kind of cell phone I
am using?

Receptionist: So they get your GPS coordinates, sir

(Door Bell rings followed immediately by a loud knock on the door)

Receptionist: That would be the IRS, sir. Thanks for calling
ObamaGolf. Have a nice day...

"I've often thought that the process of aging could be slowed down
if it had to go through Congress."
 - George W. Bush

proformatrillionaire's picture

Regardless of race

people will vote for the person who promises the most free shit and is most likely to deliver it.

benny_bomb_boom's picture

yeah

"Hispanics are culturally pro-family. The men are unabashedly masculine. (There's a reason why women swoon over the "Latin Lover" archetype.) I've dated a lot of Hispanic guys, and I personally think it's nice to have a guy insist on opening a door for you."

but you need to finish the thought...and maybe continue into a longer term arrangement. would you then like that they insisted you make them dinner and do the dishes? then, while they eat the flan you served them, wash their dirty underwear? how about clean the house and the kids and put them to bed?? if we are throwing around stereotypes here, then lets keep them coming from all directions.

as a male who married a women from south america i find it fascinating someone with your online personality dated " a lot of hispanic guys ". most latin countries are so far behind america in womens lib it is not funny. when i made dinner then did the dishes on one of our first dates she almost fainted...and the rest is history.

anyhow flip that coin...

unfortunately i had a dear friend marry your "latin lover type" and those "cute" gestures you refer to quickly turned into a possessive control freak. He told her, and this is her talking to me a while back, "If you continue talking with this guy, I will kill you." I have not heard from her in years...

anyhow, what was the point of that? i have no idea. my opinion is as it was, this is a rigged game and i don't even get to play. so why worry about it? i am fine rubbing my matches together, who knows maybe one day i'll light a fire.

SRSrocco's picture

WHY GOLD'S BASE PRICE SHOULD BE NORTH OF $2,000

Even with the lousy Fiat Currencies, Debts and Massive Derivatives in the World, the Base Price of Gold should be $2,000:

http://srsroccoreport.com/why-golds-base-price-should-be-north-of-2000/why-golds-base-price-should-be-north-of-2000/

boomer sooner's picture

Getting close to home.

"Kowalski said he also wonders how the immigration courts and federal agencies like U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement will be able to adequately keep track of those going through deportation hearings as they migrate through the country."

Whats so damn difficult about deportation?       Where are you from, where are your parents from, birth certificate or place of birth?

Sorry if I seem not very kind hearted, but taking a chance sometimes means you loose.  If I were in their families shoes, I would probably do the same.  These families were investing in the future and sometimes it does not work out.

http://m.newsok.com/unaccompanied-immigrant-children-begin-their-arrival-at-fort-sill/article/4913019

Its interesting how we call them children.  Most are over 14 years of age.  100 years ago, in America, a 14 year old was treated like we treat a 20 year old today.  The countries these "children" come from are probably not far from a society that the US was 100 years prior, therefore I deem them young adults.

Dr Jerome's picture

Thanks Stephanie

Our topic for the weekend may be the issue that tips the US into the downward spiral. the liberals in this nation will not tolerate images of children, stuffed wall to wall in shelters. They will demand action to care for them. 

We cannot afford to extend the subsidy class any further, but here it comes!

the parents of these kids have a plan... they will be joining their children as soon as they can. And especially if these new immigrants are hard-working, they will join the work force that is already seeking too few jobs.

So the FED will keep creating money so the gov can sell their T bills, borrowing even more to fund this socialist utopia. The NSA has more people to spy upon and all of our social agencies will be begging for a bigger budget.

I am convinced that Obama is intentionally weakening the US with a mainstream media who is paid to look the other way.

Journalism helped the American colonies recognize the oppression of their mother country, they made the revolution possible, and for the most part have exposed all the scandals they can as a watchdog. But now they are silent. 

Edit: By the way, newt Gingrich just called--well his computer called anyway--to tell me about how he and other conservatives are having a summit to figure out how to stop Obama's radical agenda to undermine this country! 

Well, Newt, why don't you start a motion to impeach and remove him from office? And Biden too. You certainly have all the evidence you need. My donation won't help. Give Kenneth Starr a call--sick him on Obama to pull the case together.

Mr. Fix's picture

Silver: The Undercover Super Metal

Silver: The Undercover Super Metal

Silver: The Undercover Super Metal

Silver has a reputation for being gold’s less desirable sister, but make no mistake, silver may still be a golden opportunity to invest in.

You might be surprised to know that silver plays a part in many everyday things you use, especially electronics. Silver has the highest electrical and thermal conductivity of all metals. The use of silver is very prevalent in the photography, consumer electronics, medical, and high tech industries.

A huge future super consumer of silver will be the green technology sector. The primary technology that converts the energy of light into electricity in solar panels is solar cells, also known as photovoltaic cells. Silver is the primary ingredient used in these cells; depending on the type, up to 90% of the cell may be silver. Future silver consumption by the solar energy industry is estimated to be 100 million ounces by 2015.

Another area silver may be set to gain steam is in batteries. Lithium ion batteries were first commercialized over 20 years ago by Sony, which makes them very old from a tech perspective. Many concerns have also been raised about their safety. Some research is showing that silver oxide and silver-zinc batteries might be a substitute. Imagine if a company such asTesla switched to using silver as a main component of their batteries. Hint: they just ordered 2 billion automotive-grade lithium ion cells from Panasonic.

Original graphic from: cdn.sbcgold.com

silver66's picture

Help me with this please

A junior silver66 is flying home today. We can go onto our home computer and go to the airlines website. We  can get a interactive page with the flight in the air, its air speed, its altitude and expected time of arrival and what center is reporting the data.

First thing Mrs Silver66 said to me when she reported our daughters progress to me was "tell me why they don't know where MH-370 is"

She is starting to think like me

Silver66

boomer sooner's picture

Additional note

Watching golf today, the lush grass and tall thick rough is gone at the US Open.  Is this a precursor for our future?  Never would have imagined Pinehurst to look like a track I usually play, dry, fast and almost barren in places.  I might break 90 there, Love those garage floor greens!  Yes, that is how I learned to putt them.

Dr Jerome's picture

Time for a bad golf joke.

Two men ran out to the course for a quick nine after work. They get to the tee and see two ladies playing ahead of them.

One of the men complains that the ladies will slow them down and says he is going to ask if they can play through. He goes halfway to the ladies and turns back.

The other man asked what was wrong. The man said, "I can't go up there that's my wife and my mistress."

So the other man says he will go. He goes halfway and comes back. His partner asked what happened and the man replied, "Small world, huh?" 

JY896's picture

Happy birthday, TFMR

Since no one mentioned it yet, I figured I'd commemorate the 3-year anniversary. It's hard to believe 36 months have gone by since the first post on the site. How time flies while one awaits the conclusion of the Great Keynesian Experiment... Thanks, Turd!

Some postcards to mark the occasion, courtesy of Pining 4 the Fjords:

I hope Turd is spending the weekend thus:

There seems little doubt these shopping cart runs are nearing completion:

Birthday wishlist:

See you all next year:

Here's to Turdites past, present and future. Stay classy, and keep stacking.

Special thanks to Stephanie and admin for all you do.

Magpie's picture

A little story about Hispanics, just for Stephanie

Many years ago my daughter and SIL bought a cute little house in an established neighborhood. Then some of the older neighbors died, the homes were sold to investors, because the houses weren't McMansions. Then the tenants moved in, mostly Hispanic, because the area was adjacent to another growing hispanic neighborhood.

And then the burglaries started...their home was broken into three times, my grandkids' bikes were stolen multiple times from the back yard where they were chained to a tree. Cars started driving up and down the street at high rates of speed. Then the cops were always in the neighborhood because of all the drug dealing, wife beatings and other altercations.

Then, in less than a year three people were murdered(guns), and another killed by a drunken illegal who had been convicted twice before for DUI, and released by ICE. A house was burned to the ground...torched by some gang members trying to get even with some other gang members. There were also several non-lethal shootings. Those events all occurred within a two block radius of their home. Just before the murders happened my daughter & SIL listed the house because they were afraid to live in their own home. When my 9 year old granddaughter witnessed one of the shootings and had to identify the shooter in a police lineup, they sent their kids to live with their paternal grandmother.

No one wanted to buy the house because the area had gotten so dangerous. Then the housing crash happened, and the house became even more worthless and went upside down. My daughter & SIL ended up losing the house and going through BK (there were other factors, but losing 90K in equity sure as hell didn't help.)

The neighborhood looks like crap now...the lawns are dead and brown, and only the hardiest of trees have survived... abandoned cars and trash are everywhere.

My granddaughter physically breaks out in a sweat and starts breathing rapidly when she sees any hispanic man who look similar to the shooter she saw. My daughter drives out of here way to avoid certain parts of town so her daughter doesn't get frightened. They've had to put her in a private school (yeah, aka "white")and pay for counseling.

I am soooo on the opposite side of where you are. If you walked up to Reid or Pelosi's home and told them you were moving in, expected free shelter, food, medical care and an Obama phone you'd get thrown in the slammer. Maybe you should go down to the border and pick out the "good" ones from the ones that are going to kill our citizens with cars, drugs or guns. If they came through legally at least we'd have a chance to select the ones who would be of value to our society.

If you owned your own business would you hire someone without a background check? Would you be mad if your DA didn't prosecute your employee for embezzlement, even if you had a ton of evidence and a confession? I'll never be able to understand why it's OK for some people to be allowed to break the law, whether it's illegals of ANY race or origin, or the banksters. We're either a nation of laws, or we're not. Right now it looks like we're a nation of emotions...if you feel sorry for them then it's OK for them to break the law and suck the economy dry. Maybe every legal citizen in this country should start breaking any law they want. Why should people crossing the borders illegally be the only ones who get to do what ever they want to do, without any consequences? Why shouldn't I be free to steal that $15/lb steak from the grocery store, and not go to jail? I know one thing...it costs the economy a lot less for me to steal a steak that it costs to provide everything an illegal wants from us.

Hell, why don't we just charter a bunch of jets and fly around to every country south of the border and gather up every single one of them that wants a free ride compliments of the U.S. taxpayer? That way they won't have to make that long and dangerous from their country to ours.

Rant off.

Markedtofuture's picture

Is it Taxes or Opportunity that Cause Migrations?

Is it Taxes or Opportunity that Cause Migrations?

Posted on June 14, 2014 by Martin Armstrong

QUESTION: The invasion of children from the Mexican perspective is to have a better life. The U.S. perspective is all these people do not pay taxes and take jobs. Is this common throughout history?

ANSWER:  The Mexicans are not coming here because of taxes but for OPPORTUNITY. Americans are complaining they do not pay taxes and take jobs. Obviously, this is just the surface of the issue. It is always economics not taxes that have been the great stimulant for migrations if we define that as survival regardless if there is a government or taxes.Taxes have some impact on movement as in multinational movement of capital today to avoid taxes, but by no means is this the issue in a grand sense at the individual level for migration.

The old saying the streets are paved with gold was common during the 19th century because of the gold discoveries in California and Alaska and this helped to fuel the mass migration from Europe among the Italians and Irish in particular. So their expectations were the same – opportunity. They were not fleeing taxes. Keep in mind that income tax was a 20th century phenomenon and that did not even impact the average citizen until after World War II. So taxes in that sense are like global warming, a modern impact at the mass level. Yes taxes became abusive in Rome and resulted in people just walking away from their property. But that was not just taxes, it was the breakdown or society and security that went hand-in-hand.

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Historically, the reason for migration has always been opportunity. The trend toward nationalism where people are against the immigrants is common throughout history just as the riots in the mid 1800s against the influx of Irish. This emerges during economic declines where domestic people see few jobs and then blame immigrants for their hardship even when there is no actual direct evidence as is the case with the Mexicans today.

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Nevertheless, the terms applied to crime in the USA such as  someone is a “hooligan” is a derivative of an Irish name Holigan that has survived from that era of social riots of the 1840s. The term “vandal” refers to the Vandals who invaded Rome and stole everything they could. This type of resentment against the Mexicans may be excused with taxes to justify the reasoning, but in reality it is the economic decline and not actually taxes. It is consistent throughout history. Even in the stone age they did not take kindly to new tribes moving into their territory for better hunting. There is evidence of war extending back a very long time.

This is why I say if that IF the REASONING in taxes, which it is only a justification, then eliminate income tax and go to consumption tax and it does not matter who is here – everyone pays. After all, that is how taxes were before Marxism for thousands of years. Then you will see the real reason is opportunity from the immigrant’s perspective and competition for resources from the domestic perspective and that is always during an economic decline in lean times. People always blame the economic decline in jobs on immigration the same as a decline in scarce resources in ancient times – competition.

ata's picture

Taxpayer dollar logic

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buzlightening's picture

stephanie. Wonderful!

Been my clarion call for years to have every self sufficient patriot loving constitutionalist to vote for change by buying and ounce of silver.  You may vote for this change as often as you like.  Just get all the silver into the hands of we the people and let the fraudsters eat all the ashes from the fiat debt based burn down.  These emigrants come for true freedom lets at least have something real to offer.  Not our shake'n bake lil scamBO regime pretend government for the people.  scamBO is muslim brotherhood all the way everyday.  Until we the people know we've been already taken over we'll never begin to restore ameriCON'd.  It won't be from any of these two parties; republiCONs and demonCRAPs.

"Go out and talk to people and start your own revolution."   Based on constitutional money, our constitution , and a we the people united in such to blow all comers against us away.  Hey our forefathers did it and we can too!  Yes! We can!  Excuse me none of this recycled lil scamBO crappola. We will!

woofwoof's picture

We are dying!

I have often wondered why the Democrats and the Republicans and the big corporations are so adamant about immigration reform.  Why they all are pushing for an open border.  I have concluded that it boils down to our current predicament; debt, deficit spending, and unfunded liabilities.  In 1960 the worker to benefit ratio was 6 to 1.  It is projected that by 2020 that ratio will shrink to 2.6 to 1 and by 2040 at just 2 to 1.  Hardly enough to fund the retirees.  The fertility rate by 2020 is projected to be at a mere 2.01.  The power that be is desperate to artificially inflate the working pool with immigrants but it a strategy that is too little and too late.  America is dying under the weight of its own debt. 

Pattaya7's picture

WRONG WRONG WRONG!

Unlike you dear I am Latino.  

I speak fluent Spanish and have lived in S.A. for over 15 years.  As many of you know I have put tons  of Latino gang members in jail. 

One of my daughters is adopted from Guatemala.  I stood in line 6 hours to get her her citizenship papers. $30,000.00 to pay off the lawyers. One white/gay daughter and one white daughter.  All my kids see it the same as me.

The Guatemalan came to America when she was 14 months old does not speak Spanish and looks like a Central American.  Dark hair and skin.  But she is pure gringa now. She is against open borders.  Like her dad.

The type of Latinos we are letting in ARE NOT the same as before.  Theses are people who will do as they are told by the Mainstream media and the Catholic church

They will vote for free stuff!  To take away YOUR guns.  And to tax the hell out of YOU.  They HATE us.  They been told by the state run media that YOU stole their land and discriminate against all Latinos.  You are the Problem!

This is a planned collapse of the border to bring in Communism, confiscate your guns and bring down America.

Wake the hell up!  Unless you want the Pope and his commie buddies running your life then call your congress person NOW and tell them to close the border now!

This may be the beginning of the end of America.  

Unless we fight.  Immigration is a winning issue for us.  But we are cowardly and afraid of being called racist

I say fuck the immigrants!  throw them out!  Take care of our own now.  OUR people are suffering!

I'm a Vet of two very nasty wars.  I fought for the Constitution.

Which now seems like is  used as shit paper by our government.

Don't be a sucker.  Obama is trying to destroy America.  And the GOP sold out long ago.

If you want your Republic you better fight for it.  

The Catholic Church and the Globalists  have one mission.  To turn America into Mexico.

Fuck the church and the whores in D.C.!  Follow the LAW!

Take the red pill..........

El Gordo's picture

You may not remember this,

but back when I was a lad, and through efforts of our forefathers, the United States was geographically expansion minded.  The Louisiana Purchase, the Texas Revolution and subsequent annexation, and Seward's Folly, are examples of our forefather's desires to stretch this nation from sea to shining sea.  Lewis and Clark were hired to explore all this new territory as most Americans at the time believed that the edge of the world lay just beyond the Mississippi River.  There were groups of natives, then called Indians, who inhabited the vast wilderness out west who lived off the bounty of the land.  But once the Europeans began to arrive, they recognized the need to import people to begin to settle these territories.  Today, the bulk of the population lives along either the Atlantic or Pacific coastline, and the interior, known as "fly over country" is used for agricultural purposes and has limited population (relative to the coasts).  The problem with this arrangement is that the prevailing political attitudes of the people living in densely populated areas, having little or no knowledge of the vast open spaces America still has, make decisions based on only what they know, but try to apply it to areas where it is absolutely inappropriate and will not work.  We hear about Detroit decaying, but honestly, who cares.  In the overall scope of things, it's not material. 

When the US decided to try to settle the western areas, they relied on hard working immigrants from Europe on the east coast and Asia on the west coast, to move to America, land of opportunity, and set up a new life.  But, every one of them came in through a legal program, were scanned for diseases, and turned loose to set their own course.  Open borders were not desirable then and are not desirable today.  This "latin lover" bullshit may be OK for some wild eyed liberal hopeless romantic living in Austin, but the fact is that open borders are allowing drunk drivers (also a Mexican cultural thing) to kill our citizens, bring terrorism in the form of drug cartels and human trafficking into the country, and also allow OTMs in as well.  We must control our borders or we have no country.  Today, lawlessness seeps from the White House into the cultural mainstream where it intersects with down right criminals to create anarchy.  How in the world any juror in today's courtroom can convict anyone of  breaking the law is beyond me - our juries today make their decisions based on how they feel and not on the law, just as our politicians do.  Therefore, we have become a nation of men - those in high office get to have things their way - and the rest of us peons just have no recourse as we would if we were a nation of laws.  

Latinos and Mexicans are not bad people.  Neither are the Asians, the Europeans, the Native Americans or most of the other peoples of the world.  But we must manage our borders.  If you do not believe that the Democrats set up this child migration wave, pack them into camps and pick out the ones they want to take home for their own personal gratification, and use the rest for photo ops and manufacturing a crisis, then you just don't understand politics in America today.  If we can bus these children to Arizona or where ever, we could just as easily bus them back home where they belong.  And send their respective governments a bill for doing so.  We are losing our nation to a bunch of crazy thinking people whose brains were fried at an early age and who are virtually incapable of wiping themselves.  What a shame.  As Americans we can do better.

Pattaya7's picture

Take heart, conservatives: I

Take heart, conservatives: I think your paranoia over Hispanic immigrants is a bit over-the-top and shows the defeatist attitude you've allowed yourself to be programmed with. Hispanics aren't born with a "Vote Democrat" gene. If anything, they are much more socially conservative than the average white progressive, and not driven by white guilt or political correctness.""

Utter and complete BULLSHIT! This is the Camber of Commerce, Eric Cantor/Obama party line

Only a stupid gringo would believe this bullshit!

Listen up cadets!

THEY WILL DO WHATEVER THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA TELL THEM!

Get them the hell out of MY country!

Pattaya7's picture

Take heart, conservatives: I

Take heart, conservatives: I think your paranoia over Hispanic immigrants is a bit over-the-top and shows the defeatist attitude you've allowed yourself to be programmed with. Hispanics aren't born with a "Vote Democrat" gene. If anything, they are much more socially conservative than the average white progressive, and not driven by white guilt or political correctness.""

Utter and complete BULLSHIT! This is the Camber of Commerce, Eric Cantor/Obama party line

Only a stupid gringo would believe this bullshit!

Listen up cadets!

THEY WILL DO WHATEVER THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA TELL THEM!

Get them the hell out of MY country!

Pattaya7's picture

Legalize ALL drugs NOW!

As a former S/A DEA  I say prohibition does NOT work!  Who owns your body?  YOU or the state?

Take back your rights!

See L.E.A.P  Law enforcement against prohibition.  Many of us KNOW the drug war is a way to take our freedoms and we have began to speak out!

That would end the internal problems in Mexico and stop the flow of low information voters who are coming to take YOUR jobs,money and guns!

So It Goes's picture

@Pattaya7

You are on fire amigo.

Go, go, go!

Pattaya7's picture

One more thing!

Steph,

Your Latino "buddies" talk shit about YOU behind your back.  They are two faced liars.  You see they will be nice right up until the time the don't need you.  In their world it's dog eat dog.

The moment some politician says..... "Steph has a better house than you vote for me and I will hang Step for her crimes and give the house to my Mexican people!  She got it through "white Privilege"

The will kill you, eat tacos and dance on your grave.  You are a stupid fucking gringa to them.

Can I jump the border and plead the Mexican government for citizenship, welfare, free medical and free food?

Fuck no!

Then why is ok for the gang banging bastards to come to MY country and get free shit?

Fuck off illegals!  

stephanie's picture

@Pattaya7 - chill, I am not pro-illegal immigration

I think what's happening with our borders is an absolute disgrace. All I'm saying is I think it might backfire bigtime, and the elites are not going to get the results they planned for. 

BTW, I used to date a former Latino gang member who was making good for himself and working for a living; quite a few of the Hispanic friends I had in Los Angeles when Obama was first running for president saw right through him and actually voted for McCain or third party. I also dated a more liberal Latino, but he was an entrepreneur (building his own web business), and no way in hell did he want handouts - too proud for that. He worked his butt off. 

As for them laughing at me behind my back - doubtful,  because I'm not some freakin' condescending tool trying to treat them "special" (like some well-meaning "liberal") - I just treat people like people.

Yeah, there are bad apples in the bunch. But there are still more good Hispanics than bad (even among illegals), and if people stopped freaking out and thought about how to reach these new immigrants, we could have a massive army of allies on our side. 

I mean, heck, if uber-Socialist France can suddenly flip-flop and become more fiscally conservative, to the point where French Socialists there are freaking out that their party is going to die out completely, you think that can't happen with the Hispanic population here? 

 

Dagney Taggart's picture

President Ted Cruz, stephanie?

Huh?

So a man born in Canada to a Cuban father can be President now?

Wouldn't that legitimize the presidency of Barack Obama as it relates to something I've heard from Republicans complaining that he was born in Kenya to a Kenyan father?

PS. And 50 yards off the California coast? That's some serious precision flying by the Russians.

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