If Only I Had A Nuclear Option...

Longtime Turdites know that I very rarely write about politics. Frankly, the farce of the American, one-party system bores me. However, sometimes the audacity of the lies is so breathtaking that it stops me in my tracks. Today is such a day.

For those global Turdites who don't know American Civics, we have three branches of federal government. One branch is the Legislative branch and it is divided into the House of Representatives and The Senate. I'll spare you the gory details but the Senate handles a lot of serious stuff besides simple legislation. They approve things like treaties as well as judicial, bureaucratic and cabinet nominees. Because of these important, contemplative roles, the Founding Fathers of the U.S. made it clear that items passing The Senate must do so with more than a simple majority. There are 100 senators, two from each state, and to pass a measure you need 60 votes, not 51.

Today, in breaking 225 years of adherence to these principles, The Senate passed a change to the rules. This "nuclear option" change allows the Senate to now approve items such as legislation, treaties and appointments with as few as 51 votes. Read more here:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-senate-approves...

And here:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/11/21/qa-what-is-the-nuclear-option/

Look, the American system of government has already been damaged beyond repair by decades of corrupt politicians and a dumbed-down populace that couldn't care less. What kills me is the hypocrisy. I can't stand it. It makes my skin crawl and I feel I must do my part to expose it.

So, here you are. First up is Senator Harry Reid, the Majority Leader of The Senate. In this clip from 2008, Senator Reid is visiting with former Senator Tom Daschle and the "nuclear option" comes up:

 

And this post wouldn't be complete without the disingenuous lies of Woody and Plugs. Recall that before being "elevated" to the Executive Branch, both were U.S. Senators.

 

So there you have it. Feel free to vent and pontificate on the ongoing destruction of The American Experiment. It was the closest man ever came to liberty and self-government and events like today's just throw another pile of dirt on the grave.

TF

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Turd Ferguson's picture

I wonder how long it will

MODERATOR

I wonder how long it will take for Eric Original to show up and call me a Nazi...

treefrog's picture

twoth

ribbit!

turd, it's bad but not quite that bad.  treaties still require two thirds of the senate.

"He (the prez)  shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments."

u. s. constitution, article 2, section 2, second paragraph

Hagarth's picture

Over 1 minute

is my guess, though the word is being thrown around quite freely these days.

3rd

Cleburne61's picture

Btw Turd...

3.6 more tonnes sucked outta the GLD today....7 more to go, and we'll have hit a nice round 500 tonnes gone for good this calendar year...

Mr. Fix's picture

5

smiley

GoldisMoney's picture

Top 10 ? Wow!

Top 10 ? Wow!

blackhawk01's picture

Margin reduced!

Silver and Gold comex margin reqs reduced slightly tonight. Awesome!

Whitecastle123's picture

Busted Turd

I believe there are 114 US Senators.  Obama said he was going to campaign in 57 states.  I wonder where the rest of them are. 

cavalier's picture

Nuclear option will poison the Senate

The senate has frequently been the voice of reasons , it slowed down the process.

Now it can be the ram job, one party rule, no need to negotiate, this will poison the senate, destroy what little good will remained.

But with the house in republican hands and the senate in democratic ones this rule change will insure that nothing takes place on the legislative level from now until 2014 election.

but BO will use his executive powers to do a lot of harm to the economy, and BO thought this was a good idea.

I suspect that this rule change, while viewed as positive for democrats initially, they get judges they want, will ultimately be negative for democrats in the long run.

Mr. Fix's picture

The lawlessness continues.

What happened today in the Senate clearly confirms my basic  hypothesis that the Democrats who are currently in charge never intend to relinquish control over us.

The mainstream press is glossing over this, the WABC radio network simply  characterizes this as a way to streamline the process of confirming judges.   There is no mention whatsoever of the power grab that it clearly is.

Now our president Obama can stuff all of our courts with his communist cronies with impunity, and they can simply legislate from the bench, and  rewrite and interpret laws anyway they see fit.

The United States has already devolved into a tyrannical dictatorship, and some people are beginning to notice, but unfortunately, there are far  too few to actually make a difference at this point.

But that is changing.

boomer sooner's picture

HT Whitecastle123. That's

HT Whitecastle123. That's funny right thar!!!!
Now, can they pass the Arms agreement from the United Nations with 51?

treefrog's picture

@ boomersooner

no, they can't pass the u.n. small arms treaty with 51.  see post above or u.s. const. art.2, sec.2, paragraph2.  they still need two thirds for treaties.

Whitecastle123's picture

Boomer sooner

Of course , they can do anything they want.  Do you actually think we are living in reality ?  I don't see any signs of it.

twippers's picture

$17 coming?

tyberious's picture

My

question is, is this related to the upcoming and declining popularity of the TPP!

I'll bet it is!!

tyberious's picture

NAV Premiums Of Precious

NAV Premiums Of Precious Metal Trusts and Funds – 17,256 Ounces of Gold Leave PHYS

jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com / BY JESSE / 21 NOVEMBER 2013

When I did my update today I noticed that the number of ounces held in the Sprott Gold Trust has declined by 17,256 ounces. I believe this is a very recent development. That is over $21.5M in gold bullion that has been redeemed which is a fairly large amount. I don’t think it’s for Hanukkah gelt.

With these paper price raids on gold, the redemption terms at PHYS must look good compared to the premium one can obtain to physical gold in Asia. Given the integrity of PHYS and the cost and bother of a redemption, it must be due to some significant price differentials. Or someone just sees something coming, and wants to have their gold very close to home, wherever that might be.

There were no changes at the Sprott Silver Trust, except for the usual reduction in cash on hand. The cash levels there are getting down to the point where I suspect that Sprott will consider another shelf offering sometime within the next six months at most.

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Mr. Fix's picture

I don't think I would be counting on the Constitution to save us

It is a delightful thought to think that the Constitution will be respected with regards to treaty ratification, but just like everything else that has happened in the last few years, any time the Constitution, or any law for that matter gets in the way of destroying this country, it is simply ignored, or rewritten, or simply reinterpreted. There are no laws anymore when they can be changed at will by a criminal government that is in the process of consolidating its power.

The Republicans have the audacity to say that this will backfire on the Democrats in the next election.

That is pure BS, the elections are now meaningless, they are simply for show, a make-believe process just like any other tyrannical dictatorship.

The only way a Republican will ever be elected, is if he is a card-carrying closet communist. And of course, the Republican Party is already ruled by them anyway.

You might as well abandon all hope of this mess ever being resolved at the ballot box.

This will end in civil war, and we will probably be invaded by Russia and China to help prop up Obama,

but under no circumstances is the rule of law anything the elites are concerned about.

These guys clearly don't play by any rules, they just change them at will.

tyberious's picture

Enough Is Enough, We Want Our Freedoms Back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qVeAqXUILOQ

Paul To Obama: “Enough Is Enough, We Want Our Freedoms Back”

by Steve Watsom, Prison Planet:

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul has issued a impassioned video address, slamming the surveillance state and demanding that freedom be restored.

We were once outraged and dismayed and spurred to resist when British soldiers came knocking at our door with illegitimate warrants seeking taxes on our papers.” The Senator notes, citing the American Revolution. “Today, your government responds that there is no expectation of privacy once you consign your records to a third party.” Paul continues.

Your government argues that the Fourth Amendment applies not at all to your bank records, your Visa bill, your internet searches or purchases or emails. If not resistance, shouldn’t there at least be outrage?” The Senator urges.

Adding that Orwell’s 1984 needn’t even be imagined in order to be alarmed, the Senator continued “Imagine for a moment what information could be gathered from your Visa bill,” he added, pointing to personal information pertaining to health and even politics.

“Are we so afraid of terrorists that we are willing to give up the very freedoms that separate us from them?” Paul asked.

Read More @ PrisonPlanet.com

s1lverbullet's picture

Can't wait

To get wasted on NUGT at $10 a share when gold breaks 1100. Let's get this party started.

buzlightening's picture

From sound money to many other

checks and balances built into our constitution by our founding forefathers; principles there in lived today could solve many if not all of our modern problems.  A standing army to take us up the wazu in foreign wars would gone.  Never would have happened had the noodle backs stuck with keeping the countries freedoms out of other people business.  All foreighn wars are bankster wars so the payoff for the noodle backs to taqke us to war must have been substantial.  True blod money as the best blood of America being drained in our youth who believe they're preserving liberty.  Preserving a perverted form of self appointed bastards establishment of some warped righteousness steeped in lunacy. I'd better not go on and just leave it at  a free people will have sound money.  We are not free.  Free people don't have standing armies to bully the globe around with warped self righteous Fascist ideals from psychopaths.  Free people with something to share to the world offer it through example and people flock to it, as in times passed where some freedom was not totally slavoraded through bankster gangsters debt gone wild.  Some where on our way to freedom, constitutional freedom from wise founding fathers, some enemy sowed tares within the wheat.  Now that they've grown together  the tares need bundled and burned.  

Magpie's picture

If I could,

I'd wiggle my nose and Reid would be out of his posh hotel suite in DC, out of the Senate  and sent back to his home in Searchlight, NV, where he'd live under house arrest for the rest of his miserable life.  Every time he pulls crap like this I have to hang my head in shame because I'm a Nevadan.  Too bad what he did isn't treason....

DayStar's picture

Harvey's Up! (TFMR)

  • William Norman Grigg: The State of California’s Armed Prohibited Persons System (APPS) has created a paramilitary group dedicated exclusively to gun confiscation. Using gun registration lists, the APPS storm troopers, “arriving in SUVs and dressed in black tactical uniforms … regularly sweep through California cities” to seize firearms from people the state has designated “prohibited persons,” reports the Fresno Bee.
  • Harvey: GOFO numbers are now very slightly increasing in the positive, but all GOFO rates still positive. GLD: Gold lost 3.6 tonnes today to close at 856.71 SLV: Silver was unchanged at 10,404.87.
  • GoldCore: trading of gold futures were suspended twice yesterday and four times in the last three months as trading was also suspended on September 12, October 11, and now, November 20. Nanex reported that about 1,500 gold futures contracts traded in one second at 6:26:40 a.m. Eastern time on Wednesday, triggering a $10 drop in prices and a 20 second trading halt. Immediately after the release of the Fed minutes, came another burst of selling which led to gold futures being suspended for another 20 seconds. The second bout of concentrated selling is believed to have been even more than 1,500 contracts. Each contract is worth 100 ounces so 1,500 contracts is worth nearly $200 million.
  • William Kaye:  The Chinese now going to be invoicing their oil imports in renminbi. This is another major step in China sidestepping the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency. This means that China will have bilateral trading arrangements with Russia and the other major countries, such as Iran, that provide energy to China. So, again, this is another brick out of the wall for the US dollar and by the same token US hegemony. But nobody seems to care.
  • William Kaye on Venezuela's gold: What we know, based on press reports, is that the gold Hugo Chavez worked so hard to secure before he mysteriously died, some of that gold is being reclaimed in a financing arrangement. what was very clear in the press reports (out of Caracas) was that because of the pressure on the Venezuelan economy, the new Prime MInister Maduro, the guy who replaced Chavez, is essentially leasing back to the West, with Goldman Sachs being the broker who would be the custodian, at least some of the gold that Chavez had retrieved. I can tell you that based on the data we have on yesterday’s AM and PM fixes in London, an enormous amount of gold changed hands.
  • Chris Powell (GATA): If there's any consolation from the repeated poundings gold has been taking lately, maybe it's that more financial market professionals are recognizing it as central bank intervention and that the central banks have become so desperate that they no longer care much about getting caught. Among the financial market people shaking his head at it all today is fund manager Stephen Leeb, who, interviewed by King World News, remarks: "But the Fed comes out with this Joseph Goebbels-style propaganda today, and in order to make it look credible, they smash the price of gold. Six or seven years ago I didn't believe in conspiracies. But when you have the rigging of the LIBOR market as well as so many other markets staring you in the face, it's becoming obvious that something is wrong with the gold market."
  • Martin Armstrong: "There is no 'manipulation' organized to force the price down. This is simply a bear market and there has been steady liquidation of commodities in general. A manipulation is apparent only when that single commodity is moving counter-trend to the group."
  • Nat Rudarakanchana: The Swiss federal government on Wednesday rejected a right-wing political initiative known as "Save Our Swiss Gold," which sought to restrict the country's independent central bank's ability to sell and control gold, and urged lawmakers to vote down the measure. The initiative, led by the conservative Swiss People's Party (SVP), sought to keep Swiss central bank gold holdings to at least 20 percent of assets.
  • Jessie (American Cafe): When I did my update today I noticed that the number of ounces held in the Sprott Gold Trust has declined by 17,256 ounces. I believe this is a very recent development. That is over $21.5M in gold bullion that has been redeemed which is a fairly large amount. With these paper price raids on gold, the redemption terms at PHYS must look good compared to the premium one can obtain to physical gold in Asia. Given the integrity of PHYS and the cost and bother of a redemption, it must be due to some significant price differentials.
  • Japan: A new island has formed near Japan today that is about 600 feet wide. It is close to a small, uninhabited Japanese island. The last time there is a record of eruptions in this area was the late 70s. It is the first known volcanic activity in the area, part of the Pacific's "Ring of Fire," in around 40 years. "This has happened before and in some cases the islands disappeared," a government spokesman says, though if the island remains, Japan has plans for the bit of land, reports Kyodo News: "If it becomes an island, our country's territorial waters will expand."

All this and more on...

The Harvey Report! smiley

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/366560#comment-366560
 

Dagney Taggart's picture

Correct me if I'm wrong

Our Nevada neighbor has always said that Americans can simply ignore unconstitutional laws and walk away. The wise did it regarding gold confiscation in 1933 since executive orders only apply to employees of the executive branch. Did I say that correctly?

Yet for some reason they don't ignore. They get all worked up over empty political threats because they don't realize politicians and even police make empty and even illegal threats of coercion daily. But enforcement is an entirely different story. Something interesting happens too if the citizen challenges them and asks under what constitutional authority they are acting. Getting them to cite their legal authority and knowing your rights is the key. What is so hard about simply ignoring or, if pressed, claiming and/or citing one's constitutional rights and simply walking away and forcing whoever to say otherwise or foolishly commit an open act of tyranny? The latter wouldn't be too wise in such a heavily armed country just itching for a excuse it seems.

He's talks about the Owen vs. Independence ruling too.

California Lawyer, if you're reading would you comment. If we return to a sustainable way of life, I plan on retiring to our place in Nevada. That's about 10 years or so but I want to be ready if need be.

ancientmoney's picture

We need to heed the Declaration of Independence . . .

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Dagney Taggart's picture

@Ancient

Nothing that excess and dependence caused by a fiat currency can't overcome.

Robespierre's picture

Octung Fuhrer Ferguson

Very good post. This is why we must have term limits in the senate and congress. Also 1 term for the liar and chief.

Turd Ferguson's picture

Yep

MODERATOR

Six years for everybody.

One six-year term for Senators and President. Three two-year terms for House.

ag1969's picture

SCHIFF!!!

AlienEyes's picture

I had a dream....

Harry Reid was hanged from a Los Vegas hotel with three hundred feet of bungee cord. He went up and down six times before the bungee broke.

Nancy Pelosi was burned at the stake as a witch/bitch.  

Barbara Boxer, Diane Fineswine and Waxman-the-Rat along with Barney Frank were all shot for high treason.

Joe Biden was thrown to a pack of wild dogs. They ate his wife for desert.

The O'bummer's were taken to the Washington Zoo for feeding time at the lion cage.

I woke up in pain from smiling until my face hurt.

Maryann's picture

Well said, TF

Today was not a proud day for the US. sad

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