Going Nowhere Fast
I had hoped that Tuesday would provide some excitement. Nope. We are in Dullsville while everyone awaits the FOMC tomorrow. To kill the time, I found something we definitely need to discuss.
Last night, ZeroHedge decided to dip into their archives and recycle a post from September of 2009. In case you missed it, I thought I should focus on it here, while we wait for a tomorrow that will be about 1000% more interesting.
Here is the link to the story from last evening which begins with the following paragraph:
"Lately various media outlets have been swamped with stories and allegations of precious metal manipulation ranging from the arcane, to the bizarre to the outright ridiculous. At issue is not that these claims of price fraud are unfounded - they very well may be completely true - but without a notarized facsimile of an actual trade ticket signed by Brian Sack, or his replacement Simon Potter, or any of the BIS traders confirming they are indeed selling gold on behalf of the Fed, BOE, ECB, SNB or BOJ simply to keep the price of the metal down, what such constant factless accusations (and no, sorry, a chart showing that the price of gold may go up or go down sharply indicates merely that and nothing about the underlying factors for such a move) do is to habituate the broader public to the real issues surrounding precious metal, and other asset class, manipulation. So instead of searching for circumstantial evidence which one can easily find everywhere, we decided to go straight to the source. To do that we go back to a post we wrote back in September of 2009, based on an internal previously confidential Fed document, which conveniently enough explains everything vis-a-vis gold manipulation and leaves nothing to speculation or misinterpretation. Zero Hedge presents the smoking gun that may provide responses to all the various open questions regarding the Fed's Modus Operandi in the gold arena which answer the core question - motive - courtesy of a declassified memorandum, written by none other than the then Fed Chairman, and addressed to the president of the United States."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/fed-gold-price-manipulation
And here is the link to the original piece from three years ago which concludes with the following:
"So to all conspiracy theorists claiming that gold is being manipulated on a daily basis by the Federal Reserve: when it occurs over and over, and is so well documented, it is no longer a theory, it is merely sad. And the fact that the US government goes to great lengths to hide the illicit dealings of the Federal Reserve, which through its monetary tentacles, has prima facie control over not just US policy but also over sovereign governments, is an unprecedented failure in the checks and balances system that the founding fathers had planned when they created the United States of America. Yet saddest is that the United States no longer pursues strategic goals that are in the best interest of the majority of its citizens, but merely manipulates other, less powerful nations into a servile existence that only provides gain to a very limited subset of the American financial oligarchy. It is time for the Fed's unprecedented control over affairs, both global and domestic, to end."
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/smoking-gun-fed-controlling-gold
Please take time to read the entire article and the 1975-era document which is attached in Scribd form. Lots and lots of juice discussion points here. Have at it.
I'll update later today if conditions warrant. I'm not expecting much, though, as both metals will likely remain in a tight range for most of the day.
TF
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Comments
RE:This is an interesting story
It's like reading an episode of spy vs spy! I think we have until October before the war drums are all in concert!
Follow the clues?
1) 1970s Nixon does a deal with the House of Saud to ensure the $ (petro dollar) retains demand for the greenback
2) Gaddaffi & Suddam H wiped out for threatening to use other non $ currencies for oil trades
3) Bilateral currency trades between BRICS / Japan sorted
4) Dubai Gold Exchange hits new trading record http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page31?oid=156015&sn=Detail&pid=31
5) Bandar possibly dead = House of Saud in a panic
http://www.debka.com/article/22225/Saudi-silence-on-intelligence-chief-Bandar’s-fate-denotes-panic
The House of Saud is the US's security in the Middle East, and if they were to lose their support it's bye bye petro dollar. No wonder there's been a media blackout of this event. and it may account for PM's otherwise unexplained rise yesterday.
Our world leaders....we are
Our world leaders....we are doomed!
REAL ESTATE VALUES
My next door neighbor and I built our upper end homes in 2007. He borrowed about 90% LTV and we paid for ours. His home is listed @ about 44% of the original cost on a short sale. They will be able to move with zero losses after living in the home, payment free, for a long period and in some cases, the bank pays the owner to list the home for sale. Yes they get cash upon the closing of the sale even though they have not made payments for many months.
It will be many years before the upper end home owners who paid for their homes will be able to sell them for the original prices. When we consider the true inflation rate and the continual negative value of the dollar, we will never be even again. Many baby boomers who saved their entire lifetime and paid off their homes have been moved to the back of the poverty line.
During the boom years, while we were making big fiat, I often commented to our friends, " It is really amazing to me that in this great economy that the baby boomers that I know, have not saved enough cash to pay for an empty building lot after working for 30+ years". This is the reality of retirement today in America,- Got seeds and a garden?? jmo
@Vypuero
Doh!
Frisby's Bulls and Bears
From the guy who brought you this:
A podcast with:
Detlev Schlichter
Detlev is an author and Austrian School Economist.
Read his blog.
Buy Paper Money Collapse from Amazon.
Miami’s international banking
Miami’s international banking clients move money to protect financial privacy
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/07/30/158707/miamis-international-bankin...
More like protecting their ASSets
@ I Run Bartertown
More like 30+ million Illegal alien invaders aka enemy combatants.
Proper 14th Amendment enforcement, nationwide E-Verify along with NO "entitlements"/taxpayer dollars for them or their illegal offspring. No food stamps, welfare, medicade, free medical care, WIC, HUD, free lunches, schooling, instate tuition, ect..
http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html
The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads in part:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside."
In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:
"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."
This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:
"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word...
Key: This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens,
Slaughter-House Cases
http://www.lectlaw.com/files/case30.htm
@ IRB--Already on a bus
But you haven't factored in the cost of "lost votes" 3+ months from now. Sheesh.
entrenched, parasitic elite
Teach wrote: "The question is how does one...or a population...go about dismantling such an entrenched, parasitic elite?"
Ron Paul is doing his best to reform within the current system, but he has been silenced by the mainstream media who holds a death grip on the minds of the average American. Thus we have to write in a vote. I count a vote for either Obama or Romney as a vote for the entrenched, parasitic elite!
I am afraid that we need a financial collapse to wake up Americans to the fact that our bankers are corrupt and our leaders corrupt as well as incompetent. Perhaps then some of our sensible politicians will step up, get noticed and offer a plan to rebuild our nation. One can only hope
Or perhaps the cities, counties, and states will step up during a collapse and take jurisdiction, push out any federal military presence and self govern their regions until something more stable is established. Seems that some select states are much more likely to re-establish order than other states.
Given: Governments need money to run. It is expensive to outright cominate a populace. You have to enslave them and make them serve you with their labor and bounty to fund the occupation.
I hate it that we have ask such questions...
But there might really be the opportunity in the near future for people like us to move to the fore and offer answers and plans in our communities.
Been posted before, but on this day which would have been...
...Milton Friedman's 100th birthday, felt it deserved an encore.
Freedom of Speech gone in UK too?
Arrested, really?? WTF is happening to the UK when you get blatant Fraud on massive scale - trillions being stolen by bankers unpunished - and they arrest a naive (if vile) 17 year old kid for tweeting?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/news/9440261/Teenager-arrested-over-abusive-tweets-to-Tom-Daley.html
Teenager arrested over 'abusive' tweets to Tom Daley
A 17-year-old has been arrested after allegedly malicious tweets were sent to Olympic diver Tom Daley accusing him of letting his late father down.
By Telegraph reporters
8:40AM BST 31 Jul 2012
Dorset Police have confirmed the teenager was arrested on suspicion of malicious communications at a guest house in Weymouth following a series of abusive messages.
Daley and his partner Pete Waterfield missed out on a medal yesterday when they finished fourth in the men's synchronised 10m platform diving event at the Olympics.
Shortly afterwards, Daley retweeted a message from user Rileyy69 which said: "You let your dad down i hope you know that."
Federal Reserve is as federal as Federal Express is
http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/frcourt.html
Court Rules Federal Reserve is Privately Owned
Case Reveals Fed's Status as a Private Institution
Lewis v. United States, 680 F.2d 1239 (1982)
John L. Lewis, Plaintiff/Appellant,
v.
United States of America, Defendant/Appellee
No. 80-5905
United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit.
Submitted March 2, 1982.
Decided April 19, 1982.
As Amended June 24, 1982.
Plaintiff, who was injured by vehicle owned and operated by a federal reserve bank, brought action alleging jurisdiction under the Federal Tort Claims Act. The United States District Court for the Central District of California, David W. Williams, J., dismissed holding that federal reserve bank was not a federal agency within meaning of Act and that the court therefore lacked subject-matter jurisdiction. Appeal was taken. The Court of Appeals, Poole, Circuit Judge, held that federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the Act, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations.
Affirmed.
1. United States
There are no sharp criteria for determining whether an entity is a federal agency within meaning of the Federal Tort Claims Act, but critical factor is existence of federal government control over "detailed physical performance" and "day to day operation" of an entity. . . .
2. United States
Federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of a Federal Tort Claims Act, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations in light of fact that direct supervision and control of each bank is exercised by board of directors, federal reserve banks, though heavily regulated, are locally controlled by their member banks, banks are listed neither as "wholly owned" government corporations nor as "mixed ownership" corporations; federal reserve banks receive no appropriated funds from Congress and the banks are empowered to sue and be sued in their own names. . . .
3. United States
Under the Federal Tort Claims Act, federal liability is narrowly based on traditional agency principles and does not necessarily lie when a tortfeasor simply works for an entity, like the Reserve Bank, which performs important activities for the government. . . .
4. Taxation
The Reserve Banks are deemed to be federal instrumentalities for purposes of immunity from state taxation.
5. States Taxation
Tests for determining whether an entity is federal instrumentality for purposes of protection from state or local action or taxation, is very broad: whether entity performs important governmental function.
Lafayette L. Blair, Compton, Cal., for plaintiff/appellant.
James R. Sullivan, Asst. U.S. Atty., Los Angeles, Cal., argued, for defendant/appellee; Andrea Sheridan Ordin, U.S. Atty., Los Angeles, Cal., on brief.
Appeal from the United States District Court for the Central District of California.
Before Poole and Boochever, Circuit Judges, and Soloman, District Judge. (The Honorable Gus J. Solomon, Senior District Judge for the District of Oregon, sitting by designation)
Poole, Circuit Judge:
On July 27, 1979, appellant John Lewis was injured by a vehicle owned and operated by the Los Angeles branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco. Lewis brought this action in district court alleging jurisdiction under the Federal Tort Clains Act (the Act), 28 U.S.C. Sect. 1346(b). The United States moved to dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction. The district court dismissed, holding that the Federal Reserve Bank is not a federal agency within the meaning of the Act and that the court therefore lacked subject matter jurisdiction. We affirm.
In enacting the Federal Tort Claims Act, Congress provided a limited waiver of the sovereign immunity of the United States for certain torts of federal employees. . . . Specifically, the Act creates liability for injuries "caused by the negligent or wrongful act or omission" of an employee of any federal agency acting within the scope of his office or employment. . . . "Federal agency" is defined as:
28 U.S.C. Sect. 2671. The liability of the United States for the negligence of a Federal Reserve Bank employee depends, therefore, on whether the Bank is a federal agency under Sect. 2671.
[1,2] There are no sharp criteria for determining whether an entity is a federal agency within the meaning of the Act, but the critical factor is the existence of federal government control over the "detailed physical performance" and "day to day operation" of that entity. . . . Other factors courts have considered include whether the entity is an independent corporation . . ., whether the government is involved in the entity's finances. . . ., and whether the mission of the entity furthers the policy of the United States, . . . Examining the organization and function of the Federal Reserve Banks, and applying the relevant factors, we conclude that the Reserve Banks are not federal instrumentalities for purpose of the FTCA, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations.
Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stockholding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank's nine member board of directors. The remaining three directors are appointed by the Federal Reserve Board. The Federal Reserve Board regulates the Reserve Banks, but direct supervision and control of each Bank is exercised by its board of directors. 12 U.S.C. Sect. 301. The directors enact by-laws regulating the manner of conducting general Bank business, 12 U.S.C. Sect. 341, and appoint officers to implement and supervise daily Bank activities. These activites include collecting and clearing checks, making advances to private and commercial entities, holding reserves for member banks, discounting the notes of member banks, and buying and selling securities on the open market. See 12 U.S.C. Sub-Sect. 341-361.
Each Bank is statutorily empowered to conduct these activites without day to day direction from the federal government. Thus, for example, the interest rates on advances to member banks, individuals, partnerships, and corporations are set by each Reserve Bank and their decisions regarding the purchase and sale of securities are likewise independently made.
It is evident from the legislative history of the Federal Reserve Act that Congress did not intend to give the federal government direction over the daily operation of the Reserve Banks:
H.R. Report No. 69 Cong. 1st Sess. 18-19 (1913).
The fact that the Federal Reserve Board regulates the Reserve Banks does not make them federal agencies under the Act. In United States v. Orleans, 425 U.S. 807, 96 S.Ct. 1971, 48 L.Ed.2d 390 (1976), the Supreme Court held that a community action agency was not a federal agency or instrumentality for purposes of the Act, even though the agency was organized under federal regulations and heavily funded by the federal government. Because the agency's day to day operation was not supervised by the federal government, but by local officials, the Court refused to extend federal tort liability for the negligence of the agency's employees. Similarly, the Federal Reserve Banks, though heavily regulated, are locally controlled by their member banks. Unlike typical federal agencies, each bank is empowered to hire and fire employees at will. Bank employees do not participate in the Civil Service Retirement System. They are covered by worker's compensation insurance, purchased by the Bank, rather than the Federal Employees Compensation Act. Employees travelling on Bank business are not subject to federal travel regulations and do not receive government employee discounts on lodging and services.
The Banks are listed neither as "wholly owned" government corporations under 31 U.S.C. Sect. 846 nor as "mixed ownership" corporations under 31 U.S.C. Sect. 856, a factor considered is Pearl v. United States, 230 F.2d 243 (10th Cir. 1956), which held that the Civil Air Patrol is not a federal agency under the Act. Closely resembling the status of the Federal Reserve Bank, the Civil Air Patrol is a non-profit, federally chartered corporation organized to serve the public welfare. But because Congress' control over the Civil Air Patrol is limited and the corporation is not designated as a wholly owned or mixed ownership government corporation under 31 U.S.C. Sub-Sect. 846 and 856, the court concluded that the corporation is a non-governmental, independent entity, not covered under the Act.
Additionally, Reserve Banks, as privately owned entities, receive no appropriated funds from Congress. . . .
Finally, the Banks are empowered to sue and be sued in their own name. 12 U.S.C. Sect. 341. They carry their own liability insurance and typically process and handle their own claims. In the past, the Banks have defended against tort claims directly, through private counsel, not government attorneys . . ., and they have never been required to settle tort claims under the administrative procedure of 28 U.S.C. Sect. 2672. The waiver of sovereign immunity contained in the Act would therefore appear to be inapposite to the Banks who have not historically claimed or received general immunity from judicial process.
[3] The Reserve Banks have properly been held to be federal instrumentalities for some purposes. In United States v. Hollingshead, 672 F.2d 751 (9th Cir. 1982), this court held that a Federal Reserve Bank employee who was responsible for recommending expenditure of federal funds was a "public official" under the Federal Bribery Statute. That statute broadly defines public official to include any person acting "for or on behalf of the Government." . . . The test for determining status as a public official turns on whether there is "substantial federal involvement" in the defendant's activities. United States v. Hollingshead, 672 F.2d at 754. In contrast, under the FTCA, federal liability is narrowly based on traditional agency principles and does not necessarily lie when the tortfeasor simply works for an entity, like the Reserve Banks, which perform important activities for the government.
[4, 5] The Reserve Banks are deemed to be federal instrumentalities for purposes of immunity from state taxation. . . . The test for determining whether an entity is a federal instrumentality for purposes of protection from state or local action or taxation, however, is very broad: whether the entity performs an important governmental function. . . . The Reserve Banks, which further the nation's fiscal policy, clearly perform an important governmental function.
Performance of an important governmental function, however, is but a single factor and not determinative in tort claims actions. . . . State taxation has traditionally been viewed as a greater obstacle to an entity's ability to perform federal functions than exposure to judicial process; therefore tax immunity is liberally applied. . . . Federal tort liability, however, is based on traditional agency principles and thus depends upon the principal's ability to control the actions of his agent, and not simply upon whether the entity performs an important governmental function. . . .
Brinks Inc. v. Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, 466 F.Supp. 116 (D.D.C.1979), held that a Federal Reserve Bank is a federal instrumentality for purposes of the Service Contract Act, 41 U.S.C. Sect. 351. Citing Federal Reserve Bank of Boston and Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, the court applied the "important governmental function" test and concluded that the term "Federal Government" in the Service Contract Act must be "liberally construed to effectuate the Act's humanitarian purpose of providing minimum wage and fringe benefit protection to individuals performing contracts with the federal government." Id. 288 Mich. at 120, 284 N.W.2d 667.
Such a liberal construction of the term "federal agency" for purposes of the Act is unwarranted. Unlike in Brinks, plaintiffs are not without a forum in which to seek a remedy, for they may bring an appropriate state tort claim directly against the Bank; and if successful, their prospects of recovery are bright since the institutions are both highly solvent and amply insured.
For these reasons we hold that the Reserve Banks are not federal agencies for purposes of the Federal Tort Claims Act and we affirm the judgement of the district court.
AFFIRMED.
Most Basic Freedom being Patented for Profit
The greatest oppression of people is through food, and it's going to be controlled by Monsanto, whose board is powerful government officials/military for a supreme alliance of ultimate control.
Spread the word, join one of the orgs at bottom of Dr. Mercola link, donate. This is silver manipulation x 3 or more: it's about food and our livestock dying from eating GMO.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/07/31/monsanto-p...
http://naturalsociety.com/genetically-modified-grass-kills-cattle-by-pro...
@Nana
Great stuff.Thanks, this issue is resolved clearly .
One Last Sickening Plunge?
I know this is a big week and people have high hopes but consider this option. The Bernanke disappoints by saying nothing and the monkeys get one final hammer at the price of gold and silver to run all the stops (only a 10% move in silver would be a new recent low and would trigger a lot of sell stops).
Don't take this the wrong way, I am very bullish on the price of the PM, just think there will be a big shakeout of the weak hands before there is any run up in price. If they know the game is up (with the manipulation investigation coming to an end) they will want to cover their final shorts before the price is allowed to explode higher.
Just be cautious my friends.
Z
Mad World - Distasteful, but Not Illegal
@The Green Manalishi:
Thanks for posting that - I certainly don't understand how tweeting the message "You let your dad down I hope you know that", to an Olympic athelete is illegal (or worthy of Police intervention) in any way. It's obviously distasteful, given the recipient's personal family situation - but - the Police intervene for this?
Has everyone gone mad?
Sidenote: I think anyone in the public eye that is overly sensitive to the opinions of others, should avoid using Twitter, for their own sanity. That's just common-sense.
Fed May Disappoint
@Zoltan: Unfortunately - I think you are correct - my bet is that the Fed disappoints the markets and the Metals are hammered back.
Given recent history - We've all been conditioned to expect that particular outcome.
Trillions missing?
Good grief, Nana. Cut the FED some slack. They are 100 years old. I'm old too. I lose crap all the time. Sometimes I find it again; sometimes I don't.
wax off
podcast's
Turd,
Don't want to sound critical here but there has not been a new podcast offered since the John Williams one last month. Is this the shape of things to come for us that cannot afford the premium service? The podscast's you have were always a special part of the complete "Turd" package but it seems they MAY be a disappearing feature.....I hope not !
As always, I am most grateful for your efforts and offerings.
Oil
Getting killed! . . .early sign of no QE announcement?
TA, gold and dollar movements
Usually if you graph something that's moving, it's against a fixed environment. Yet all TA of gold, etc, is done vs a moving US dollar. If the dollar has gone up 12% (which it has) and gold remains steady, then hasn't the gold price really risen 12%?
Tracking a moving target against another moving target renders statements such as 'we have another 4% to go before hitting this Fibonacci target' meaningless, doesn't it?
Just asking...
My local LCS is out of everything
I was in there Saturday, all he had was a couple silver rounds and some junk. He says nobody is selling, he thinks everyone who is going to sell, has sold. Actually, these were some pretty strong hands but were forced to sell because of financial emergency and now they're tapped out. Most people I know, the gold and silver is the last thing they'll sell. Some people going through tough times right now, it's sad to see them lose their stack. As for another sell-off to force weak hands to sell their metal...I think anyone who has held on for the last fifteen or so months probably isn't going to sell now.
Alf Feilds
http://goldswitzerland.com/alf-field-confirms-next-gold-target-as-4500/
Alf Field confirms next gold target as $4,
500
July 31st, 2012 by Egon von Greyerz
Alf Field, the most eminent gold forecaster, has issued a new article in which he confirms that gold has now finished its correction and that the next move will be a “violent upside action ……. targeted to reach $4,500.
Egon von Greyerz
WHAT HAPPENED TO GOLD? – PART 2
By Alf Field
There are no certainties in the investment universe. Investors are forced to weigh up the various risks and assess the probabilities involved before committing themselves to a course of action. Current Elliott Wave and technical studies suggest that the probabilities now favor a strong rise in the gold price.
It may be helpful to consider my personal assessment of the various probabilities at different points in the recent gold market correction. On 23 August 2011 when gold pushed above $1910 my guess was that there was a 90% probability of a severe correction. The target for the decline, as given in my keynote speech at the Sydney Gold Symposium in November, was circa $1480, the point at which the explosive extension in the gold price had started.
Extensions have a good record of retracing to the approximate point from which the extension began, in this case $1480. Market action during the decline is used to fine tune a more accurate end of the correction. Gold never got down to target of $1480, stopping not very far away at $1523 in late December 2011. At $1523 all the minor subdivisions suggested that there was a 75% probability that this was the low and that the market would move into a strong upward move, probably the most vigorous of the bull market. A lesser alternative considered was that $1523 might only be the A wave of a larger A-B-C correction.
Subsequent events proved that the lesser alternative – that $1523 was only the low point of the A wave – proved to be the correct diagnosis. The A-B-C correction is shown in the above chart.
The upward move from $1523 through January and February 2012 to $1792, a gain of $270 in just 2 months, looked exactly like the vigorous upward move that had been anticipated. From $1792 a correction in the 6%-8% range was expected. That meant a maximum retracement to $1650 could be tolerated. A decline below $1650 would indicate that something was wrong with the analysis and would necessitate examining alternative possibilities.
Gold down $7
Is likely just your regular Tuesday CoT painting.
I expect a rebound on the Globex.
27.50 baby!
Dont buy physical silver yet. Wait till 27.50. Youll get your chance... or many chances. Just do it before the November elections.
27.50 vs 28.00
whats the big difference--I have been buying since 2004 and I do timed buying period.
once in a while impluse buying.
I find waiting to be a folly.
of course, when many of ones purchases are at prehistoric prices....
btw--when I started buying It would drive me up a wall if the price of gold fell 2 bucks right after I bought and I jumoped for joy if it went up 2 bucks--thats history--now take things more calmly.
On Gold's manupulation
I'm surprised more haven't commented on Turd's post. I was surprised when I had read it on ZeroHedge.
It makes sense that tying your currency to gold requires EVEN MORE manipulation of gold's price and to maintain an international Oligopoly.
So I guess the only difference now is the degree of manipulation and Asian central banks who seem to be unwilling to go along with the Western central bank's games. If we are truly to see gold revalued closer to its natural price it will likely be do to these Eastern countries. Our goal of seeing gold at a market price is hopefully aligned with China who is buying huge amounts at the "discount" below market price.
The post also reinforces why the Western central banks want to keep the price of gold down. They clearly have seen gold price as a signal in confidence in their policies. And we now must question their policies more than ever. Thus, repressing both gold and silver is essential to them to preserve the image they are still in "control" of the economies. We, however, know this is no longer the case. (Otherwise why buy gold?).
@ Missiondweller
That is exactly what I am thinking, China is gonna be the new head bitch in charge after the shit storm...
what's up with Gold?
Hi there
I live in Canada. Two odd things just happened today:
1) Went to my local dealer and tried to purchase some Au - he was out. He old me Au was flying off of the shelves but he did have some Ag left (maples and philharmonics). He usually runs out of Ag but always has Au. I left scratching my head. Maybe time is really running out for the financial system ...
2) The misses and me are taking a nice holiday next month. Our travel agent said if we did not pay with a credit card, but rather, wire the funds to her, she would give us a nice discount. When I called up my bank (CIBC) to wire the funds, they read the usual "anti money laundering stuff" to me ... then asked what the money is being wired for. I told her I was paying my travel agent. The bank agent then asked, "Are you buying gold with this wire transfer?". Of course I said "no". I asked her about this question and why she was asking it. She said the bank now is required to ask if one is purchasing gold with their funds.
Canadians out there - your government is watching you. Very closely, in fact.