Another Volatile Day Ahead?

Go ask the local newspaper people what it is. Sounds newsworthy to me. If they give you a line of bull, you will know it's nothing beneficial.

And I say again.  What a wicked awesome call Turd.  We are not worthy.

http://pennystockjournal.blogspot.ca/p/gold.html

I in no way want obummer to win but I don't want romney to win either, not going to choose the lesser of two evils on this one.  I don't care that my write in for Ron Paul probably isn't going to get him much further ahead, but his ideals are what I believe in so that's who I am going to vote for.  I do like your Rand Paul write in idea though, in all honesty at this point I think Ron knows he has a one in a million chance of actually winning but wants to set it up for his son to carry on his philosophy, give it one more terrible presidential election where our country officially becomes a shit hole and I bet people will start changing their minds on who should be in office.

When millions lose their jobs and have no hope of finding gainful employment, what options do they have for keeping food on the table?

The obvious answer for those who have become dependent on government safety nets is nutritional food assistance, and to date, more than 48 million Americans have come to rely on the program to stay alive.

But what if your country reaches its breaking point? What if the price of essential food gets so high due to inflation or supply issues that not even food stamps provide enough help to maintain a healthy diet? What if the very safety net established by government begins to tear? Then what?

The majority will have no other option but to scrounge for food in the streets… or starve. We’re already seeing this across America and Europe as tens of millions of people struggle to adjust to a dead or dying consumptive paradigm. These people have not yet realized what has happened and they hold on to the hope that their political leaders will somehow change the inevitability of a disastrous outcome brought on by a system that has been overloaded with debt, overspending, irresponsibility and moral hazard.

Those, however, who have come to the realization that the economy is not rebounding, that jobs have either been vaporized or permanently outsourced, that things are going to get much worse before they have any chance of getting better, have begun taking steps to ensure that they’ll not only have larder for their families, but a source of income, however paltry.

As easy money made it possible for mass urbanization (and suburbanization) during the widespread global build-outs of the last two decades, the collapse of the lending system and credit in general over the last few years has forced many individuals in Europe and the United States to look at other options. In a scenario such as that in which we find ourselves today, where jobs are scarce, prices are high, and socialization becomes economically impossible to maintain, enlightened individuals are doing exactly the opposite of what they’ve been taught to do. They’re no longer heading to cities for high paying tech or finance jobs. They’re headed back to their ancestral roots – back to the rural countryside to try their hand at a different lifestyle."

From: http://www.wealthwire.com/news/economy/3483

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A man of principle, not a middle-schooler.

I was heartened to see all the coments about grass fed beef and how bad the grain fed beef is. That'swhat i like about this site people think for themselves anddon'trely on MSM for their info. Cows are wired to eat grass, grains cause unnatural e Coli etc in their gut and thus the requirements for anti biotics. The corn is laden with pesticides and that goes into the cow too. They are raised on CAFO which is also unhealthy inhumane and wreaks untold havoc on the environment.
Monsanto is to food what JPM/Goldman is to finance. GMOs are to food what derivatives are to finance. I.e. Weapons of mass destruction which once a predator or disease evolves to decimate these mono crops we are so f...d. They are also implicated in bee die offs.
Obie swore he'd require gmos to be labels but instead he appointed a monsanto exec to head the FDA! Sound familiar.
They want to control the world via their gmo food that they are trying to force on farmers worldwide. They are putting small farmers out of business with their regulations. Some day they will outlaw your backyard livestock and maybe even the homegrown veggies. It's already happening.
Eat local and keep on stacking

Looking ahead at possibilities, cause, effect, actions and reactions of fiat and pm's that will surely come, from time to time over the years I've wondered about how the public will react with astronomically high gold and silver prices. So, I'd like to post a few thoughts and pose a few questions to you folks:

How do gold and silver investors (particularly physical holders) respond when the inevitable big move up happens, then goes into a sustained mania… which I expect will at some point trigger MSM, politicians and anti-gold actors, pundits, Central Planners and Anglo-Elite into a desperation move to begin a misinformation campaign to demonize gold and silver holders?

As soon as the uninformed pm-have-nots are ‘educated’ and ‘inspired’ to protest gold and silver ‘hoarders’ and ‘speculators’ with a rallying cry not conceived by themselves but their media teachers, their masters, TPTB will have manufactured public outrage to provide the public support/sentiment to begin steps to confiscate through high taxation of bullion, nationalization of mines and perhaps outlaw possession or sales.

Could this scenario play out if metals go where many of us think they will and the entitled, needy and covetous ones “lead the outrage” against “hoarder speculators”? Would our powerful enemies promote in every media venue how certain greedy ones have hurt the economy and even created a national security threat? Heaven forbid. I can hear it now… “You shameful barbaric hoarders! You’ve ruined our economy and threatened our country. Seize their ill gotten gold!!!”

Hey, stranger and more outlandish lies and actions have already occurred. Why not these things?

With that, back to my question: How will we and our pm Generals counter this MOPE and propaganda? Has anyone seen this discussed?

Many pro-pm sites (JSMineset), blogs (TFM), guru newsletters (pick your fave), organizations like GATA and certain bullion dealers (Ranting Andy’s) have long-listed how TPTB, banksters, Cartel, EE and even our own government in cahoots with the Fedskies, etc. have manipulated the metals. While we know that is true (and I’ve ranted such many times myself), at some point we/someone needs to consider (as individuals and community), how and what we counter with in pro-pm messages to the general public.

Right now, if I hadn’t been following all of the dubious things done for generations now (forget Rome for a moment), and being done today by the treacherous ones… learning all of this in a short period of time would probably scare me away from thinking about purchasing pm’s. The general, middle and upper income public may be scared off by such intrigue and high crimes being committed by our very nations. They may, without a stretch, think us off our rockers. They may even see us as the threat.

The learning curve will be too great for most to grasp the historic context of gold and silver, and the cycles of manipulation and deceit. Trying to speed up the teaching process for those that don’t yet have any idea of what this community has learned over time is next to impossible. That, and trying to cram too much into those in the dark by giving them too much detail or taking them too quickly from Genesis to Revelation can actually confuse them even more… and scare them.

At this point, which newsletter, website, blog, pm organizations are considering how the currently-asleep-soon-shocked-awake public will view pm’s and pm investors… and how will they balance the certain to come anti-metals lies out of the TPTB, MSM et al?

It would be nice to see someone take the lead in this. Perhaps I’m being naïve or a bit paranoid (and perhaps counting parabolic eggs before they hatch), but it seems that there must be a clear, concise listing of all the reasons this massive fraud and paper game to drive pm's down actually hurts the non-gold/silver public as well as pm investors. Folks need to know how pm manipulation along with the current fraudulent Ponzi system of manipulated fiat currency, commodities and everything else they purchase, hurts all people and all countries. The problem/solution/benefits in general, easy to understand bullet points directed to the general public needs to get out there and soon.

Sorry for the long opine… I didn’t have time to write a short one.

Your thoughts? 

You reminded me! My dad fed the angus on something called "silage" in the winter.

He had two "blue glass silos", and boy - did that stuff stink - I think it was fermented pasturage. 

I have funny memories of him squatting down in the field to check the mixtures of grass he had planted, and almost getting bowled over by the angus cows, who would charge anything low to the ground.

is pretty incredible

Silage is generally chopped up corn (the entire corn plant, not just the ear) stored in a silo where it ferments.   Haylage is what we always called chopped up alfalfa/grass stored in a silo (or giant plastic bag).   I grew up on a farm so I'm familiar with all those terms.     The guy we buy our beef from has only Angus cattle and they are always grass fed.  They spend all spring/summer/fall in the pastures eating nothing but grass.  In the winter he feeds them round bales of hay as well as keeping them in some of the pastures just for the space.    The last 2 steers he sold weighed in around 1400 lbs live weight.   I can't recall the exact weights but that meat is so nice and lean.. .tastes so much better than corn fed feedlot cattle. 

Anyway, that's my 2 cents on  the whole meat debate. 

They start at around $400 new -those real thin skinned, rot-in-the-sun production models - but I would go used at better quality and much better dollar for value.

The best things in life are free. After you buy your canoe.

Thanks for being there for us (still).

Galearis

P.S. http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2012/7/10_Micha...

This is what works for us down here in the south.

http://gheenoe.net/

DaddyO

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-collectivist-war-against-cultural-heritage

"A distaste or hatred of heritage is very common at the onset of any collectivist restructuring.  These restructurings usually target principles of individual liberty and self governance while masquerading as a fight against oppression or corruption.  The old principles are either presented as too outdated and insufficient to deal with the new problems of a culture, or, they are presented as the actual SOURCE of the problems of that culture.  In either case, the elites wielding the collectivist machine inevitably call for a purge of all bygone ideals...

If attacks on foundational heritage are a warning sign of centralized oligarchy and collectivism as this article outlines, then America is in imminent peril.  These changes never go quietly, and are invariably surrounded by economic depression, collapse, war, and death.  From the ashes of confusion and decay inspired by collectivists, the next elitist experiment is born.  The mad science of the Futurists must not be allowed to prevail here…"

Thanks for your input! My dad called it silage back in the 50s, but it was what you call "haylage", because we did not grow any corn back then.

We had about 300 acres on the main farm, for the herd of angus, and then there were other plots nearby where he grew the green stuff for the silos.

edit: at least I am pretty sure that's how he did it. I am 69 now, and am going from childhood memory. He had a main business, and this was his "hobby" farm.

We also raised sheep. I loved lambing time.

Larry raises some good points regarding the gold @ $5000/oz plus scenario (insert arbitrary value here).

At these levels I think the world will be a very different (and probably very scary) place.  I don't think it would be a terribly smart move to have all your capital invested in bullion at that stage no matter what the original purchase cost.

The smart stacker would have already moved onto investing in other things of value to insure themselves and spread risk.

The question is...what?

Something which is difficult to trace or tax....so that rules out illiquid assets such as real estate

Something which has always been valued and upheld....and will always be valued and upheld, regardless of societal disintegration and conflict

Everyday things for barter always have the storage issue to contend with.  So yes, standard barter items are useful, but you can't take them with you in bulk if you have to up and leave in a hurry.

My answer, for what its worth is....

skills and knowledge.

How many of us here know how to

-spin wool

-make shoes

-make weapons

-grow and preserve food long term

-grow animals and slaughter them correctly

-have engineering skills of a level to design Doc's water wheel...

The list goes on.

These things take TIME (can you put a price on TIME with a gold bar?) and someone to TEACH you (again...will teachers be easy to find post SHTF?)

Something to consider for the stackers who are just stacking..and not thinking further than that.