Can't Think of a Witty Title Today

It's Tuesday and, with the euro sliding again, down go the metals for the 96th day in a row. OK...maybe it just seems like 96 days but...it's actually 12 days out of 13 now that silver has been down. Yuck.

Anyway, I'm kind of rooting for a down day today. Last week's CoT was so astounding that I'd love to see if this week's can get even better. A continued selloff today should give us a true picture come Friday.

Look, I know this is brutal and no fun and it's easy to believe that the metals will never, ever have another UPtick. Well...that's probably not the case. Since this time last week, we've been looking (hoping) for some kind of bottom between 1525 and 1575 in gold and 26 to 28 in silver. Could those levels fail and send both metals crashing lower? Of course, and we've also discussed the possibility of 1450 and 22.

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/3771/latest-gold-and-silver-breakdown

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/3773/turd-backwardation

However, even though we are clearly in unprecedented times, I believe that there is still value in some of the tried-and-true indicators. One of these is the Relative Strength Index. For a refresher, read this:

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/3246/other-technical-indicators

Remember, an RSI reading of 50 is the median. 60 is somewhat overbought and 40 is somewhat oversold. 70 is well overbought and 30 is well oversold. Now, look at these charts.

Of course, RSI is not some kind of stand-alone, perfect indicator but you have to wonder how much lower it can go before price bounces and stabilizes. 25? 20? 0?

As you can see on the chart below, much of the problem in the metals is Pig-related. Not many folks were discussing the critical juncture at which Pigatha found herself three weeks ago, but we were. From 4/26:

And now look what has happened in the time since:

On a longer-term chart, you can clearly see where The POSX has consistently had trouble with the area around 82. Perhaps that number will serve to slow/stop the rally again this time. We'll see but a final push toward 82 might coincide with a final drop in the PMs to 1525 and 26. Let's watch to see what happens.

(Note, too, that the "Operation Twist" dollar strength has been at the heart of the PM decline since August of last year. Not much reason to get overly excited about a continuance of the PM bull markets until the trend is finally broken.)

I have several reading assignments for you to pass the time today. First, this very interesting piece from KWN. Even the KWN-haters will like this post. Very interesting.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2012/5/15_Who_Is_Crashing_The_System.html

I just found this latest piece from Jeff Nielson. He wrote it two weeks ago but it's still worth a look.

http://www.bullionbullscanada.com/gold-commentary/25480-the-big-lies-regarding-precious-metals-miners

Say what you want about Debka but they've certainly been more accurate lately than I have.

http://www.debka.com/article/22003/

I don't recall where I found this but I made the mistake of reading it last night before I went to bed. I then proceeded to toss and turn all night and no amount of coffee seems to be able to rescue me today. Share my pain. Read this now and consider the consequences.

http://EndtheLie.com/2012/05/12/the-nuclear-industry-and-fukushima-a-giant-nail-in-the-coffin-of-humanity/#axzz1uwY0x0E2

Lastly, I'm recording another podcast this week with Mike Krieger. Mike recently started his own site and it's terrific. It can be found at: http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/. Below is the full text of one of his latest posts. I'm including the entire thing here because I want to ensure that you read it.

Six Months Left…Can They Do It?
I have to hand it to the Central Planners.  They are good.  Really, really good.  Of course, they are battling a crippled opponent considering so much of America consists of lobotomized sheeple, but nevertheless to be able to steal so much from many people with such blatant and simplistic methods and not be widely discovered is an act of devious brilliance.  The reason I say this now is because ever since last fall TPTB have changed tactics and totally taken over the markets and with it shoved many people into what is best described as a trance.  The people know something is very wrong.  They know they are getting poorer; that life is getting harder, yet the television and the markets have cloaked a blanket of sedation upon their minds.
Ever since roughly early October 2011 the markets have been fed line after line of carefully crafted bureaucratic garbage couple with tactical market interventions to create reality that they wish to sell.  I remember back to those last months of 2011; what it was like.  It was pure madness.  There would be a crisis and then TPTB would come out with some meeting in the next week or two that would solve everything.  Then the date would come and go and nothing would be solved and they would move the meeting to the following week.  Meeting after meeting that would be “decisive” and “bold” and would save us poor ignorant peasants from the ravages of the mean world by thrusting us into the parental arms of those who know best.  Big government and big financial institutions.  They are your new overlords, get used to it.  Subliminally that has been and continues to be the message that these guys are trying to hammer into your head.  It’s the Stockholm Syndrome.  You are being programmed to love your abuser.
In any event, the point is this. Since around fall of last year, if we tally up the score of government  vs. markets as Angela Merkel so candidly noted in 2010, the government has had seven months of pretty much victory after victory.  At least this is how it appears on the surface.  Under the surface believe me they are not so smug and they know they are losing.  You could see the fear and doubt in The Bernank at his latest press conference.  You can see the reality of the situation as it pops up through to the surface every now and again despite the media blackout of any “unfavorable” news.  These bureaucrats know full well this is all a hologram, an illusion, but it is one they are trying to sustain for as long as possible.  A line my friend said yesterday really sums it up.  So the news headline came out that “Fed Exit Should Start in 6 to 9 Months: Kocherlakota (current President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis). ”  My friend’s response was: “is that the Apache to Paraguay midnight print.“

Well the past is the past and the future lies right ahead, so how should we be thinking about things?  The assumption that is being made, and to some extent has to be made, is that if they have been able to pull off this total coup of the financial markets for the past seven months why can’t they keep it going until the election.  Well if we are to assume this, it means we must assume they can pull it off for six more months, which would bring the total to thirteen months.  This would be quite a feat.  They know how difficult it will be to keep things “together” in the markets amid a real world that is falling apart.  This is why the Fed is pretending there will be no more liquidity added to the system.  In their minds, the best strategy is to talk down QE while at the same time attacking commodity markets behind the scenes.  In their mind, this will give them the cover to create trillions more for their banker shareholders.  I have stated that this would be the plan and as we can see in the markets lately, it has been executed to precision.
There is a problem to this strategy; however, and that problem is reality.  The reality is that pretty much all of the engines of global growth in the emerging markets have economies that were similarly fueled by ponzi finance and money creation and they are rolling over hard.  I don’t even need to mention Europe.  Then there is the United States of Propaganda, which has held up relatively well due to the reserve currency status.  That said, relatively wellI does not equal good and recent indicators are pointing to a serious loss in momentum here as every unemployed EBT carrying subprime borrower in these 50 states has just purchased a car they can’t afford with free money from Ally Financial (74% owned by the U.S. government and the former GMAC, or General Motors’ financing arm).
So the fact that pretty much every major economy is rolling over at the moment means one thing.  These guys need to print and print big.  Not that this does anything for the economy, but it usually buys time (until it doesn’t).  If they are going to print and print big they need commodities as low as possible.  This is the reason for the now blatant government/Central Bank sanctioned and coordinated raids on precious metals.  Folks like me that have been aware of what has been happening for years are on the sidelines.  We are already protected from the inevitable and so it makes sense to only buy the raids.  While I have bought physical metals many times in the last couple of years, I have done no major buys since 2009.  That may be about to change.  I still suspect one more major raid attempt may be made.  If so, and silver is knocked down a few dollars from here in a paper smash, I will be standing there ready to go with the biggest buy in years.  I am not the only one.  All of us are thinking the same way.  The pent up demand from folks like me is big.  We are in no rush as we are waiting for the Central Planners to blink and then we will pounce.  When a price is printed that catalyzes huge buying it will set a major floor and we will be headed straight to $2,500 very fast.  It’s possible this has already happened, but I have a suspicion they have another trick up their sleeves.  There are four more FOMC meetings ahead of the elections (June, July, September and October).  I suspect they need to act in June or July.  The huge risk now though is if they do push the metals in a gap lower from here supply will literally disappear.  Let’s see if they dare.

OK, that's all for now. Have a great day and hang in there.  TF
 

Comments

SRSrocco's picture

LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE IS BUYING...

SILVER EAGLE SALES

PAST FRIDAY = 550,000

MONDAY = 985,000

TODAY = 1,135,000

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I don't know where I heard this (maybe someone can refresh my memory), but the FED does not want to paper price of gold to go down too far as it will really PUSH DEMAND higher then is comfortable for them supply.

Airgead's picture

Jim Comiskey

OK?

Ned Braden's picture

22 Carat vs 24 Carat

Rain,

"Scruffy Maples" get discounted by dealers. 22K doesn't

Ned

EDIT: 24K is _very_ soft; easily scratched. You still get 1 oz. of AU in those 22K coins. They will be slightly larger or thicker...

debtless's picture

For the G/S ratio folks

55/1 is where were at. Right smack in the middle of the 4 year range. A wise stacker might have either right now and build stack for swap as the ratio goes one way or the other in a 15-20 point swing. Meaning an Au OZ will fetch 55 OZ silver right now. But if it slides to 75/1 that same OZ of gold might fetch you 75 OZ of silver in trade. Or if it slides down to 35/1 like it did last year - you trade your silver for gold. It's a great way to grow the stack when prices are not really in your flavored metal's favor.

alphamorph's picture

US$ vs PMs

Can anyone direct me to a really good read on why the markets are throwing the PMs in the trash and buying bags of paper.  Isn't the world in enough trouble?  Maybe something from Peter Schiff,  Jim Rickards  or Turd Ferguson

Tabberto's picture

Still

not picking up that stick are we Victor...?  California Lawyer laid it down.

Dr G's picture

That Turk quote is one of the

That Turk quote is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

That imbecile can't find it in his brain to admit that he has been wrong time and time and time and time again. His precious silver is now solidly below $28 and looks to have lots of downside left.

Of course he can't address any of that. Only that Gold has done better than oil. Who cares!?

debtless's picture

22 Carat vs 24 Carat

Carats are a unit of measuring gemstones like diamonds. Karat is the measure for gold.

24K or pure gold is softer and more prone to scratching when handled and can be found in Maples. 22K is an alloy mix found in AGEs and is less likely to scratch.

Either will contain 1 OZ of pure .999(9) gold and the weight of the Eagle takes into consideration the alloy in addition to the 1OZ of pure Au.

It's a personal preference really. Though in the US the Eagles carry a slight premium to Maples both ways on trades.

BagOfGold's picture

I am travelling right now...

however...thought I would chime in & give my opinion on what will & is occuring right now!...The lower the price goes for PMs...the higher the premiums until there is none to be bought at any price!...The price will soar because of market demand...& when there is blood & panic in the streets...everyone will pile into the miners because that will be the only way to escape fiat currency...the miners will absolutely soar!...How does $100 share price for Pretium sound?...How about Metals Creek at $10 share price?...Crazy?...We're just getting warmed up...wait until the fireworks happens!...Stay tuned!!!...

Bag Of Gold

Grigeo's picture

VTC

Hey, you just tilted the asshole meter.  On to the IU list.

Basil's picture

Turk-The-Jerk

James Turk said

"When crude oil was $107 a barrel a few weeks ago, with gold at $1650, a barrel of crude oil cost 2 grams of gold. Now with crude oil at $94 and gold at $1550, a barrel of oil only costs 1.9 gold grams. So, by owning gold, your purchasing power over the last few weeks increased by 5% versus oil."

So, even with Gold and Silver falling thru the floor, Turk-The-Jerk can't bring himself to tell us that the metals are in freefall. Instead,  he has to dig out a commodity that is doing even worse that Gold (in this case Oil, and even then only on Turk's specified timescale of  "a few weeks") , and tell us how "wonderfully" Gold is performing against Oil.

By anyone's standards , this is totally unacceptable analysis.  In reality, it isn't analysis at all.  The man is clearly a Precious Metals  die-hard  perma-bull who cannot bring himself to accept that his recent outrageous forecasts  for both Gold and Silver are way off the mark. 

Time to grow up, James,  and join us in the real world.

Groaner's picture

He probably got that from Corzine

A keep out of jail card

gatortrader's picture

Options

For all those entertaining options, are most of you going for futures options or ETF/stock options? I'm considering a short term paper trade cause when this finally turns there are massive gains to be made >100% easy

GoldMania3000's picture

Bagof Gold

i would agree with that assessment. I'm ready to buy more shares too. Rick Rule has said this is a buyers market.  Mabye ill sell my bullion and buy more pretium

Hard Rain's picture

Ned and Debtless

Thanks for your responses.

Rain

SRSrocco's picture

MY REPLY TO TRADER DAN...

DAN... at some point in time, we need to wake up and realize as ADULTS, TECHNICAL ANALYSIS is dead. I can also say if the 300 LEVEL gets taken out then we can hit 250... after 250, then its down to 200. If 200 gets taken out and BERNANKE doesn't print, well I guess most of the miners will go bankrupt.

AGAIN.. at some point in time we are going to have to REALIZE all this FRICKEN WHITE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS NOISE is complete garbage.

Basil's picture

@Grigeo

"Hey, you just tilted the asshole meter. On to the IU list."

So why has your "asshole meter" just been tilted ?

Is it just because Victor has told you what you need to know, rather than what you want to read ?

tpbeta's picture

What is going on...

....is that the market is attempting to price in the effect of a disorderly  Greek default and subsequent liquidity crisis.  Not that complex.

California Lawyer's picture

Victor "The Shill" - Confirmed

Victor said: “So you, gentlemen, you are explaining to others how the financial markets work? And everyone who disturbs your little conspiracy club, is a paid shill? Hey, do you realize that the big boys trade their gold in multiples of a metric ton? Even if the entire blog would pool their money and go out to purchase physical, you would not make the minimum order. The big boys couldn't care less about you.”
 
How would you know, unless you are part of them?  Or, are you just some sort of elitist?  It would be real fun watching you try to walk the sidewalk in downtown San Bernardino after dark . . .
 
Besides, Victor, you write in an unmistakable style.  Your use of paragraphs show your familiarity and training in skilled use of English.  Your sentences are long and complex.  You use punctuation perfectly.  Your thought process is logical, sequential, and persuasive.  I have yet to see you use any Turd acronyms, abbreviations, or slang.  Why not?  
 
I write professionally every day.  Day in and day out.  BUT, on this blog, I use acronyms to save time, and because the READERS who come here, day after day, understand what I mean when I say BTFD hasten the demise of the Morgue, or perhaps we can all rejoice when we can see a FUBM.  
 
See, your refusal to use acronyms means many things:  you write for others NOT ON THIS BLOG to read, like your boss at the Morgue, because if you use acronyms or slang then your boss will question why you did so, and because your refusal to adopt the use of acronyms allows you to condescendingly speak to us all on this blog, thereby satisfying your ego.  The refusal to use acronyms also demonstrates your reluctance to accept the viewpoints of the others here, since being like us, and by using our chosen means of expression, means you have to get down from your lofty perch and actually mingle with the unwashed masses.  
 
I have seen many like you, and I can spot your type a mile away. 
 
Keep posting, though, because I find your posts challenging and enlightening, much like reading the octogenarian's rambles.
Doc1800's picture

OK OK OK OK OK

I capitulated. I gave in, i sold it all.  Shovel in hand , I found the last stash and sold it all.  I couldn't take the pain.  I now have my dollars in hand and am going to Disneyland.  WOOOHOOOO.   I feel so much better now that I have been robbed of all my stores of value.   I feel so much better now and when the dollar gains in value and our brilliant government saves the day, I will be living high on the hog boys and girls.  Now I am off to the lake to try and find what was lost in the boat.  I have a good idea where it might be, I'm selling that too.  Give me fiat folks- I might go to Branson next.

brown's picture

GoldMania3000 Re. Rick Rule

I thought I heard him say (on Sunday's interview) that he believed that many juniors could be out of business within 6 months (I think he actually said half of the issues on the Venture exchange will be extinct unless the market turns around real quick). He didn't sound to me bullish at all (in contrast to previous interviews). He said he believes that the market will not turn around fast enough to avoid the aforementioned bloodshed. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

exiledbear's picture

22k vs. 24k

Like several other people have already said - 24k coins are more fragile. All the karat system is, is fractions of 24ths. 24k is 100%, 22k is 22/24 or 11/12 or 91.something%. The 22k coins have 1oz of gold in them too, plus additional base metals to alloy the mass ratio of the coin to 22/24. Usually it's brass the gold is alloyed with.

Depends on what you think you're likely to do with the coins. If you're pretty sure they're going to stay in a place where they won't get scratched, and you plan on selling them straight back to the coin shop, and you like the idea of having a coin that's nothing but gold, 24k is it. Although if you plan on keeping the coin in a plastic case (and it's almost required that you do with a 99.9999 coin), methinks you're more of a collector, which is out of the scope of this forum.

If you think you're likely to be convincing someone who isn't a coin shop to take the coin as payment, or you think that you might have to transport them in rough conditions, a 22k coin might be better. You might have a better time convincing a local merchant to take your coin if he's convinced of the weight and purity and it doesn't have to be kept in a plastic case.

I suspect they'll take your coin if they're convinced it's gold in any case, but if everyone is doing business in gold, the tougher alloyed coins will be more desirable.

Outside of the 22k/24k issue, you want to own coins that are recognizable and well known. Brand awareness matters. Owning obscure coins will invite merchant haggling over whether the coin is really gold or not, and you're likely to get less for your gold when you need it than you otherwise might. And again it puts you in the collector space and not the investor/hedger space.

Mickey's picture

Options TA etc

This market, fixed income, equities in general, commodities, fx, etc is broken. Too much driven by too few. Algos, etc.

But what's the choice?

GoldMania3000's picture

Rick Rule

you certainly heard him right and he repeatedly that the other day.  BUT he also said the top 5% (give or take a few points) are the ones to be in.  The ones that have money, the ones that have the RIGHT deposits, the ones that are take over targets and take overs there will be.  He's not sure of that, he is Certain!!.  So many of these juniors will go bye bye.   It will be a bloodshed, but the good ones will survive. He also used in that KWN interview, the example of a private placement (that he just completed) where there was an over allotment of shares bought.  And that people with the big money where buying into the private placement.  by the way that was Esperanza resources.  So you see, there will be a blood bath, but if you are in the RIGHT ones, you can make lot's of $s.   Best to call ricks company and speak to him directly, which is more then willing to do

GoldMania3000's picture

QE?

 Your theory that the Fed QE is driven by the EUR/USD is about to be put to the test. What's the line in the sand?

 

 Yes, the ease is definitely coming. But markets may be surprised to see it come from  first rather than . Ease is ease.

OK everyone. let's see if rickards is right. 

Grigeo's picture

Basil on VTC

Yea, it's just a coincidence that he was Moderated & shown the door at FOFOA. 

Mickey's picture

Slow measured decline

I read earlier about a " plan" for a slow measured decline.

One aspect of that is that it does take out your usefulness of puts , or calls on thing's like DUST due to premium decay. 

JY896's picture

It seems some people...

...have missed that little tiny itty-bitty fine print that is so hard to notice on this site:

"It is very important, though, that you recognize one thing...this is not for everyone. In fact, of the entire population of Turdville, participation in this program should only fall to just a handful of very experienced and active traders. In no way do we wish to "conscript" anyone out of greed, fear or anger. We all have a role to play in this ongoing battle and, for this part of the fight, we are only looking for regular, "professional" traders."

"EVERYONE ELSE must avoid day trading at all costs. THE ONLY OPTION is to buy physical metal on paper metal dips and TAKE DELIVERY."  April, 2012

"So, what do you do. You definitely DO NOT trade on the LBMA or the Comex. These disgustingly-manipulated playgrounds of The Cartel will continue to be entirely manipulated against regular investors. They will continue in this manner until they finally collapse from the weight of their sins. WHEN they collapse, the value of physical gold and silver will skyrocket. Therefore, take this time to continue to add physical metal. Speed the demise of The Cartel by using their suppression against them. Take delivery. Add to your stack. Hold your metal in your own two hands. Only by physical possession can you be certain that you truly own it." November, 2011

"Do not despair, my Turdites. Though the PMs will continue to fluctuate in price, the trend will continue higher. Much higher. Physical metal is your only protection from the calamity that is now much closer than it was 24 hours ago." September, 2011

"DO NOT LET THE MANIPULATING, CRIMINAL CARTEL FRIGHTEN YOU OUT OF YOUR PHYSICAL METAL. BUY PUTS FOR THE SHORT TERM IF YOU MUST BUT CHERISH YOUR METAL. IT IS YOUR ONLY INSURANCE AGAINST FINANCIAL DISASTER." June 2011

Hmmm.... I dunno, it looks pretty straightforward, obvious and clearly stated in headlines to me.

I was going to try to find something about wisdom and humility, but perhaps this sums it up better:

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. 

Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. 

Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. 

Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. 

Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. 

But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it. "

       - Buddha

Mickey's picture

Rick rule

Sounds like he is marketing his business! I would!

Mickey's picture

Harry Reid

Admonishing the Republicans/tea party today for playing politics on upcoming debt ceiling discussions.

WOW   Looks like the debt ceiling being hit in September may be real.

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