Can't Think of a Witty Title Today
It's Tuesday and, with the euro sliding again, down go the metals for the 96th day in a row. OK...maybe it just seems like 96 days but...it's actually 12 days out of 13 now that silver has been down. Yuck.
Anyway, I'm kind of rooting for a down day today. Last week's CoT was so astounding that I'd love to see if this week's can get even better. A continued selloff today should give us a true picture come Friday.
Look, I know this is brutal and no fun and it's easy to believe that the metals will never, ever have another UPtick. Well...that's probably not the case. Since this time last week, we've been looking (hoping) for some kind of bottom between 1525 and 1575 in gold and 26 to 28 in silver. Could those levels fail and send both metals crashing lower? Of course, and we've also discussed the possibility of 1450 and 22.
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/3771/latest-gold-and-silver-breakdown
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/3773/turd-backwardation
However, even though we are clearly in unprecedented times, I believe that there is still value in some of the tried-and-true indicators. One of these is the Relative Strength Index. For a refresher, read this:
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/3246/other-technical-indicators
Remember, an RSI reading of 50 is the median. 60 is somewhat overbought and 40 is somewhat oversold. 70 is well overbought and 30 is well oversold. Now, look at these charts.


Of course, RSI is not some kind of stand-alone, perfect indicator but you have to wonder how much lower it can go before price bounces and stabilizes. 25? 20? 0?
As you can see on the chart below, much of the problem in the metals is Pig-related. Not many folks were discussing the critical juncture at which Pigatha found herself three weeks ago, but we were. From 4/26:


And now look what has happened in the time since:

On a longer-term chart, you can clearly see where The POSX has consistently had trouble with the area around 82. Perhaps that number will serve to slow/stop the rally again this time. We'll see but a final push toward 82 might coincide with a final drop in the PMs to 1525 and 26. Let's watch to see what happens.
(Note, too, that the "Operation Twist" dollar strength has been at the heart of the PM decline since August of last year. Not much reason to get overly excited about a continuance of the PM bull markets until the trend is finally broken.)
I have several reading assignments for you to pass the time today. First, this very interesting piece from KWN. Even the KWN-haters will like this post. Very interesting.
I just found this latest piece from Jeff Nielson. He wrote it two weeks ago but it's still worth a look.
Say what you want about Debka but they've certainly been more accurate lately than I have.
http://www.debka.com/article/22003/
I don't recall where I found this but I made the mistake of reading it last night before I went to bed. I then proceeded to toss and turn all night and no amount of coffee seems to be able to rescue me today. Share my pain. Read this now and consider the consequences.
Lastly, I'm recording another podcast this week with Mike Krieger. Mike recently started his own site and it's terrific. It can be found at: http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/. Below is the full text of one of his latest posts. I'm including the entire thing here because I want to ensure that you read it.
Six Months Left…Can They Do It?
I have to hand it to the Central Planners. They are good. Really, really good. Of course, they are battling a crippled opponent considering so much of America consists of lobotomized sheeple, but nevertheless to be able to steal so much from many people with such blatant and simplistic methods and not be widely discovered is an act of devious brilliance. The reason I say this now is because ever since last fall TPTB have changed tactics and totally taken over the markets and with it shoved many people into what is best described as a trance. The people know something is very wrong. They know they are getting poorer; that life is getting harder, yet the television and the markets have cloaked a blanket of sedation upon their minds.
Ever since roughly early October 2011 the markets have been fed line after line of carefully crafted bureaucratic garbage couple with tactical market interventions to create reality that they wish to sell. I remember back to those last months of 2011; what it was like. It was pure madness. There would be a crisis and then TPTB would come out with some meeting in the next week or two that would solve everything. Then the date would come and go and nothing would be solved and they would move the meeting to the following week. Meeting after meeting that would be “decisive” and “bold” and would save us poor ignorant peasants from the ravages of the mean world by thrusting us into the parental arms of those who know best. Big government and big financial institutions. They are your new overlords, get used to it. Subliminally that has been and continues to be the message that these guys are trying to hammer into your head. It’s the Stockholm Syndrome. You are being programmed to love your abuser.
In any event, the point is this. Since around fall of last year, if we tally up the score of government vs. markets as Angela Merkel so candidly noted in 2010, the government has had seven months of pretty much victory after victory. At least this is how it appears on the surface. Under the surface believe me they are not so smug and they know they are losing. You could see the fear and doubt in The Bernank at his latest press conference. You can see the reality of the situation as it pops up through to the surface every now and again despite the media blackout of any “unfavorable” news. These bureaucrats know full well this is all a hologram, an illusion, but it is one they are trying to sustain for as long as possible. A line my friend said yesterday really sums it up. So the news headline came out that “Fed Exit Should Start in 6 to 9 Months: Kocherlakota (current President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis). ” My friend’s response was: “is that the Apache to Paraguay midnight print.“
Well the past is the past and the future lies right ahead, so how should we be thinking about things? The assumption that is being made, and to some extent has to be made, is that if they have been able to pull off this total coup of the financial markets for the past seven months why can’t they keep it going until the election. Well if we are to assume this, it means we must assume they can pull it off for six more months, which would bring the total to thirteen months. This would be quite a feat. They know how difficult it will be to keep things “together” in the markets amid a real world that is falling apart. This is why the Fed is pretending there will be no more liquidity added to the system. In their minds, the best strategy is to talk down QE while at the same time attacking commodity markets behind the scenes. In their mind, this will give them the cover to create trillions more for their banker shareholders. I have stated that this would be the plan and as we can see in the markets lately, it has been executed to precision.
There is a problem to this strategy; however, and that problem is reality. The reality is that pretty much all of the engines of global growth in the emerging markets have economies that were similarly fueled by ponzi finance and money creation and they are rolling over hard. I don’t even need to mention Europe. Then there is the United States of Propaganda, which has held up relatively well due to the reserve currency status. That said, relatively wellI does not equal good and recent indicators are pointing to a serious loss in momentum here as every unemployed EBT carrying subprime borrower in these 50 states has just purchased a car they can’t afford with free money from Ally Financial (74% owned by the U.S. government and the former GMAC, or General Motors’ financing arm).
So the fact that pretty much every major economy is rolling over at the moment means one thing. These guys need to print and print big. Not that this does anything for the economy, but it usually buys time (until it doesn’t). If they are going to print and print big they need commodities as low as possible. This is the reason for the now blatant government/Central Bank sanctioned and coordinated raids on precious metals. Folks like me that have been aware of what has been happening for years are on the sidelines. We are already protected from the inevitable and so it makes sense to only buy the raids. While I have bought physical metals many times in the last couple of years, I have done no major buys since 2009. That may be about to change. I still suspect one more major raid attempt may be made. If so, and silver is knocked down a few dollars from here in a paper smash, I will be standing there ready to go with the biggest buy in years. I am not the only one. All of us are thinking the same way. The pent up demand from folks like me is big. We are in no rush as we are waiting for the Central Planners to blink and then we will pounce. When a price is printed that catalyzes huge buying it will set a major floor and we will be headed straight to $2,500 very fast. It’s possible this has already happened, but I have a suspicion they have another trick up their sleeves. There are four more FOMC meetings ahead of the elections (June, July, September and October). I suspect they need to act in June or July. The huge risk now though is if they do push the metals in a gap lower from here supply will literally disappear. Let’s see if they dare.
OK, that's all for now. Have a great day and hang in there. TF
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LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE IS BUYING...
SILVER EAGLE SALES
PAST FRIDAY = 550,000
MONDAY = 985,000
TODAY = 1,135,000
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I don't know where I heard this (maybe someone can refresh my memory), but the FED does not want to paper price of gold to go down too far as it will really PUSH DEMAND higher then is comfortable for them supply.
Jim Comiskey
OK?
22 Carat vs 24 Carat
Rain,
"Scruffy Maples" get discounted by dealers. 22K doesn't
Ned
EDIT: 24K is _very_ soft; easily scratched. You still get 1 oz. of AU in those 22K coins. They will be slightly larger or thicker...
For the G/S ratio folks
55/1 is where were at. Right smack in the middle of the 4 year range. A wise stacker might have either right now and build stack for swap as the ratio goes one way or the other in a 15-20 point swing. Meaning an Au OZ will fetch 55 OZ silver right now. But if it slides to 75/1 that same OZ of gold might fetch you 75 OZ of silver in trade. Or if it slides down to 35/1 like it did last year - you trade your silver for gold. It's a great way to grow the stack when prices are not really in your flavored metal's favor.
US$ vs PMs
Can anyone direct me to a really good read on why the markets are throwing the PMs in the trash and buying bags of paper. Isn't the world in enough trouble? Maybe something from Peter Schiff, Jim Rickards or Turd Ferguson
Still
not picking up that stick are we Victor...? California Lawyer laid it down.
That Turk quote is one of the
That Turk quote is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
That imbecile can't find it in his brain to admit that he has been wrong time and time and time and time again. His precious silver is now solidly below $28 and looks to have lots of downside left.
Of course he can't address any of that. Only that Gold has done better than oil. Who cares!?
22 Carat vs 24 Carat
Carats are a unit of measuring gemstones like diamonds. Karat is the measure for gold.
24K or pure gold is softer and more prone to scratching when handled and can be found in Maples. 22K is an alloy mix found in AGEs and is less likely to scratch.
Either will contain 1 OZ of pure .999(9) gold and the weight of the Eagle takes into consideration the alloy in addition to the 1OZ of pure Au.
It's a personal preference really. Though in the US the Eagles carry a slight premium to Maples both ways on trades.
I am travelling right now...
however...thought I would chime in & give my opinion on what will & is occuring right now!...The lower the price goes for PMs...the higher the premiums until there is none to be bought at any price!...The price will soar because of market demand...& when there is blood & panic in the streets...everyone will pile into the miners because that will be the only way to escape fiat currency...the miners will absolutely soar!...How does $100 share price for Pretium sound?...How about Metals Creek at $10 share price?...Crazy?...We're just getting warmed up...wait until the fireworks happens!...Stay tuned!!!...
Bag Of Gold
VTC
Hey, you just tilted the asshole meter. On to the IU list.
Turk-The-Jerk
James Turk said
So, even with Gold and Silver falling thru the floor, Turk-The-Jerk can't bring himself to tell us that the metals are in freefall. Instead, he has to dig out a commodity that is doing even worse that Gold (in this case Oil, and even then only on Turk's specified timescale of "a few weeks") , and tell us how "wonderfully" Gold is performing against Oil.
By anyone's standards , this is totally unacceptable analysis. In reality, it isn't analysis at all. The man is clearly a Precious Metals die-hard perma-bull who cannot bring himself to accept that his recent outrageous forecasts for both Gold and Silver are way off the mark.
Time to grow up, James, and join us in the real world.
He probably got that from Corzine
A keep out of jail card
Options
For all those entertaining options, are most of you going for futures options or ETF/stock options? I'm considering a short term paper trade cause when this finally turns there are massive gains to be made >100% easy
Bagof Gold
i would agree with that assessment. I'm ready to buy more shares too. Rick Rule has said this is a buyers market. Mabye ill sell my bullion and buy more pretium
Ned and Debtless
Thanks for your responses.
Rain
MY REPLY TO TRADER DAN...
DAN... at some point in time, we need to wake up and realize as ADULTS, TECHNICAL ANALYSIS is dead. I can also say if the 300 LEVEL gets taken out then we can hit 250... after 250, then its down to 200. If 200 gets taken out and BERNANKE doesn't print, well I guess most of the miners will go bankrupt.
AGAIN.. at some point in time we are going to have to REALIZE all this FRICKEN WHITE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS NOISE is complete garbage.
@Grigeo
So why has your "asshole meter" just been tilted ?
Is it just because Victor has told you what you need to know, rather than what you want to read ?
What is going on...
....is that the market is attempting to price in the effect of a disorderly Greek default and subsequent liquidity crisis. Not that complex.
Victor "The Shill" - Confirmed
OK OK OK OK OK
I capitulated. I gave in, i sold it all. Shovel in hand , I found the last stash and sold it all. I couldn't take the pain. I now have my dollars in hand and am going to Disneyland. WOOOHOOOO. I feel so much better now that I have been robbed of all my stores of value. I feel so much better now and when the dollar gains in value and our brilliant government saves the day, I will be living high on the hog boys and girls. Now I am off to the lake to try and find what was lost in the boat. I have a good idea where it might be, I'm selling that too. Give me fiat folks- I might go to Branson next.
GoldMania3000 Re. Rick Rule
I thought I heard him say (on Sunday's interview) that he believed that many juniors could be out of business within 6 months (I think he actually said half of the issues on the Venture exchange will be extinct unless the market turns around real quick). He didn't sound to me bullish at all (in contrast to previous interviews). He said he believes that the market will not turn around fast enough to avoid the aforementioned bloodshed. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
22k vs. 24k
Like several other people have already said - 24k coins are more fragile. All the karat system is, is fractions of 24ths. 24k is 100%, 22k is 22/24 or 11/12 or 91.something%. The 22k coins have 1oz of gold in them too, plus additional base metals to alloy the mass ratio of the coin to 22/24. Usually it's brass the gold is alloyed with.
Depends on what you think you're likely to do with the coins. If you're pretty sure they're going to stay in a place where they won't get scratched, and you plan on selling them straight back to the coin shop, and you like the idea of having a coin that's nothing but gold, 24k is it. Although if you plan on keeping the coin in a plastic case (and it's almost required that you do with a 99.9999 coin), methinks you're more of a collector, which is out of the scope of this forum.
If you think you're likely to be convincing someone who isn't a coin shop to take the coin as payment, or you think that you might have to transport them in rough conditions, a 22k coin might be better. You might have a better time convincing a local merchant to take your coin if he's convinced of the weight and purity and it doesn't have to be kept in a plastic case.
I suspect they'll take your coin if they're convinced it's gold in any case, but if everyone is doing business in gold, the tougher alloyed coins will be more desirable.
Outside of the 22k/24k issue, you want to own coins that are recognizable and well known. Brand awareness matters. Owning obscure coins will invite merchant haggling over whether the coin is really gold or not, and you're likely to get less for your gold when you need it than you otherwise might. And again it puts you in the collector space and not the investor/hedger space.
Options TA etc
This market, fixed income, equities in general, commodities, fx, etc is broken. Too much driven by too few. Algos, etc.
But what's the choice?
Rick Rule
you certainly heard him right and he repeatedly that the other day. BUT he also said the top 5% (give or take a few points) are the ones to be in. The ones that have money, the ones that have the RIGHT deposits, the ones that are take over targets and take overs there will be. He's not sure of that, he is Certain!!. So many of these juniors will go bye bye. It will be a bloodshed, but the good ones will survive. He also used in that KWN interview, the example of a private placement (that he just completed) where there was an over allotment of shares bought. And that people with the big money where buying into the private placement. by the way that was Esperanza resources. So you see, there will be a blood bath, but if you are in the RIGHT ones, you can make lot's of $s. Best to call ricks company and speak to him directly, which is more then willing to do
QE?
@JamesGRickards@sjoynson Yes, the ease is definitely coming. But markets may be surprised to see it come from#ECB first rather than#Fed. Ease is ease.OK everyone. let's see if rickards is right.
Basil on VTC
Yea, it's just a coincidence that he was Moderated & shown the door at FOFOA.
Slow measured decline
I read earlier about a " plan" for a slow measured decline.
One aspect of that is that it does take out your usefulness of puts , or calls on thing's like DUST due to premium decay.
It seems some people...
...have missed that little tiny itty-bitty fine print that is so hard to notice on this site:
Hmmm.... I dunno, it looks pretty straightforward, obvious and clearly stated in headlines to me.
I was going to try to find something about wisdom and humility, but perhaps this sums it up better:
Rick rule
Sounds like he is marketing his business! I would!
Harry Reid
Admonishing the Republicans/tea party today for playing politics on upcoming debt ceiling discussions.
WOW Looks like the debt ceiling being hit in September may be real.