The Latest from Jim Quinn

Please take the time to read this terrific article.

Jim has written a fantastic new missive. Every Turdite should take the time to read it.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=29386

And if you haven't listened to it yet, you might double back and check out the podcast I did with Jim last month:

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/podcast/3232/tfmr-podcast-10-jim-quinn-burning-platform

TF

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Be Prepared's picture

First-o-roni!

Since I will be taken by Turd to the most Special "First Club".... I will order a slice of "First-o-roni".....

Pining - you still rock!

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Fed meeting minutes - 53 minutes and counting

Trick or treat? I'm going to say treat. ;-)

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Way to go B-Prep!

Save me some of that canned bacon after the party, OK?

And what is up with TF today?  Dude is a posting machine, raging around the interwebz like some content-generating Rainman.  Can't keep up!

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Pining,

MODERATOR

This is by design. Read the text of the "sticky" post at the top of the homepage for details.

Be Prepared's picture

@Pining - Thanks....

You are the Photoshop Zen Master Budda of Wonderous Creativity!

Northern Border's picture

How much Physical is enough physical?

Great work Turd !  Excellent article.  Seems like your posting more frequent similar to Santa. 

This might be off topic but I have a question for all Turdites.  How much is enough regarding the size of your stack?  When do you stop stacking because at this point I am at the obsession stage and wondering what to do next? I have been a stacker since 2007 when I liquidated everything paper (ROTH,SEP,401 etc) and never looked back. 

NB

Disclaimer: I have already obtained farm land with a great natural spring that bubbles up into my irrigation ditches.

LifeIsPain's picture

What's wrong with access to birth control?

While Jim Quinn is right about a lot of things, some of his opinions are non-sensical.  How does providing universal access to birth control impinge on our freedom?  If the poor have more unwanted babies, everyone suffers.  Some of Obama's healthcare reforms have been necessary and important.  For instance, Obamacare prevents insurance companies from rejecting you because you have a prexisting condition and they have also stopped the act of rescission whereby an insurance company can drop you for no reason (but usually because you've developed an expensive condition).  And what's wrong with the idea that dependents are now covered until they're 26?  Many people seem to hate the idea that more people should have access to healthcare; we're the only significant Western industrial country that doesn't provide all our citizens with health care.  And yet we claim to have the best health care in the world (a lie).

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Be Prepared's picture

@LifeIsPain - OBummer Care

It's a whole other topic, but the bill or statute contains 1,000 pages.... the regulations for this are another 1,100 pages.  This bill was not reviewed or debated by the public.... it was shoved down our throats and is the most draconian piece of legislation.  Sure, there are some noteworthy and positive things in the bill, but they did that to sway you... to have you overlook the other 99% of the bill that will kick you in your a$$.  The bill originally was going to require every business to fill out forms for every purchase or sale over $600....  This law is designed to allow the government to become the greatest nanny state and biggest controller of your life.  :o)

LifeIsPain's picture

Yo'uve been watching too much Fox

<<This law is designed to allow the government to become the greatest nanny state and biggest controller of your life.>>

I don't think Obama's intent for the law was to make a nanny state.  Like many bills it was hijacked by all the Congressman with their pet ideas.  They justified many of these provisions with the claim with that's how they were going to pay for the increase in health care costs.  The fact is we can't really pay for health care for all our citizens (at least the way the system is set up now with insurance companies extorting us for a useless service; without them we'd be just fine).  But then we can't really pay for all the Medicare and Social Security promises we've made either.  Let's face it--the system is going to collapse because of all these previous promises--the health care bill will just make it collapse a little sooner.

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The greatest revolutionary act

....I firmly believe, is buying physical silver.  In honor of Admiral Sprott and Ron Paul, I am taking delivery next week and preparing all the dry powder my employer gives me (bonus time) to take more at the end of Feb.

If these men's voices shall ever be illegally silenced, I will forget about using dry powder and use all of my credit limit (substantial fiat there). If all freedom loving people commit to do that, the powerz will think twice before they try anything. 

MIDDIE's picture

@ TF

Excellent read from Jim Quinn, thanks.  Just finished Ameritopia, by Mark Levin.  That hits the nail exactly on the head in terms of the lefty, progressive game plan. Can't recommend that book more highly.

rckymtn's picture

How are we going to pay for

How are we going to pay for obamacare?

Since you are fine with the govt mandating that you buy something, will you mind when they tell you what food you can or can't eat, what car you can or can't buy/drive, what house/condo you can/can't buy?????? 

Since you admit we can't pay for it, are you fine when your parents need a heart procedure but the govt says their life isn't worth the $5,000 and are better off for the greater good to die?  Will you be fine when your kid who is disabled needs another surgery to try to walk and the govt tells you your kids life isn't worth enough to pay the $5,000 surgery fee?   Will you be fine when your wife hast to wait 6 months for a MRI or test to see if she has cancer only to learn you were right 6 months ago but now the cancer has spread so bad she can't be saved?

WAKE THE F UP!  

F YOUR THINKING IS SO F'ING SCAREY!

Big L's picture

There isn't anything wrong with birth control

it's almost everywhere. Even drug stores & gas stations have condoms. Pills can be had easily, and even abortions are not that hard to obtain. There isn't anything wrong with it and there isn't any problem getting it. In fact it's practically ubiquitous.

There is no need to force people who have a religious and/or moral objection to birth control to violate their beliefs. No need. 

Absolutely no reason, absolutely no excuse to force every single person and organization to toe the line that Obama Care has drawn in the sand. There is no moral reason to force this issue.

Every single person in American has a choice about where and for whom they work. Employers do not have to offer equal health care benefits, nor should they be required too. Each and every employer should have a choice.

Every single person makes choices about whether, with whom, where, and why we engage in sex, and whether or not we protect ourselves from the potential of conceiving a baby.

We are all free to make our choices and live our lives as we choose and make our decisions and suffer the consequence and enjoy the benefits of those decisions.

I boggles my mind to think that any American can be so unaccountably unable to think and understand that it is totally unnecessary to force Religious organizations to violate their beliefs in order to offer "health care" to men and women who are free to make choices about their behavior.

If you want that kind of "health care" go buy a box of Tojan's at WallMart and use them!

This is as close as I have ever come to flaming anyone, anytime or anywhere. But I just don't understand how anyone could possibly be so stupid as to think this is about access. It's about making someone else responsible for our individual choices. It's about making people with a religious and moral objection to contraception provide it to people who can not only get it just about anywhere, but they can get it just about anywhere CHEAPLY.

Big L

AlienEyes's picture

Yo'uve been watching too much Fox ?

Maybe you haven't been watching enough.  surprise

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Tecumseh's picture

LifeIsPain--seriously

There simply has not been, at least since Social Security, a more intrusive, overwhelmingly redististributive scheme than Obamacare.  The process by which the Democrats forced it on a people who, by a wide margin, did not want it, was pure tyranny, plain and simple.  The Democrats, cheered on by the lapdog mainstream media, told lie after lie about cost savings, improved medical care, and reduced premiums.  Even then, most Americans opposed it.  The Democrats admitted even they had not read the bill (indeed, how could they have read it, since it was pushed through in a wee hour session in a matter of hours?) and did not even know what all was in it.  The law contains much that is of more than questionable Constitutionality, but the individual mandate, alone, is nothing but an unconstitutional measure designed to secure power for the Democrat Party.

Furthermore, you wrote: "While Jim Quinn is right about a lot of things, some of his opinions are non-sensical.  How does providing universal access to birth control impinge on our freedom?  If the poor have more unwanted babies, everyone suffers.  Some of Obama's healthcare reforms have been necessary and important.  For instance, Obamacare prevents insurance companies from rejecting you because you have a prexisting condition and they have also stopped the act of rescission whereby an insurance company can drop you for no reason (but usually because you've developed an expensive condition).  And what's wrong with the idea that dependents are now covered until they're 26?  Many people seem to hate the idea that more people should have access to healthcare; we're the only significant Western industrial country that doesn't provide all our citizens with health care.  And yet we claim to have the best health care in the world (a lie)."

You poor, poor child.  Are you truly this naive?  I want to think you were employing sarcasm here, but I suspect you are not.  So:

(1) It is scary that you don't understand the difference between the liberty to acquire contraception and the U.S. government forcing me to pay for that contraception (either directly or indirectly through either premiums paid to insurance companies or taxes paid from the Central Planners to Planned Parenthood). 

(2) Do you hear the evil in your heart when you write: "If the poor have more unwanted babies, everyone suffers"?  Under your line of "reasoning", the following work: "If people don't die of natural causes by age 62, everyone suffers"; "If a Down's Syndrome child is born, everyone suffers."  I am amazed that anyone would write what you wrote.

(3) Do you understand that in life we may suffer some bad breaks?  At what point do we let people deal with those bad breaks rather than take tax dollars from some people and use them to "fix" the bad breaks for others?  Are you willing to give me $10,000 today because I am suffering the bad break that my sewer line needs replaced?  Would you send me $5000 today because I ran into another car because I couldn't see that car because the sun was in my eyes?  My nephew, a major league draft prospect, was injured in a car accident and insurance has not covered the losses--will you send him money to pay for that?  At some point, the notion that we, as a people, have to shift our salaries via taxes to people who suffer bad breaks will destroy us.  As the Iron Lady said, "at some point you run out of other people's money."

(4) The only Western Industrial nation that does not provide all our citizens with health care?  Seriously, you call what they have in most of these nations health care?  I have lived in England for years, I KNOW the quality of State-administered health care.  It is awful.  It is Soviet block awful.  Third world awful.  Months or years for certain treatments.  Bureaucrats choosing whether I get care for a particulare malady.  Sure, there may some examples of nations that appear to have solved the problem of universal health care at taxpayer expense, but the problem is, when you drill down into the reality, you find that no, they have not found the magic potion.  Like everyone else, they are bound by the rules of money.  IF they provide quality care in a timely manner, they are bankrupt.  IF they are not bankrupt, they don't provide quality care, or timely care, or perhaps neither.  Liberty and private property are still the two universal values that will maximize social good.  In other words, more people will get better care in a timely manner under a system based on liberty and respect for private property--period.  Why else, by the way, does the world flock to the U.S. for the best care available?

I don't know if I have read, in the entire time I have been with TFMR, a more disappointing post.

ClinkinKY's picture

@ LifeIsPain--Ha ha, you slay me

"I don't think Obama's intent for the law was to make a nanny state."

Ever heard of Cloward-Piven?

LifeIsPain's picture

Religion is part of the problem

What you defenders of religion forget is that all of these religious institutions suck off of the Federal teat.  Religious hospitals take huge amounts of Federal dollars (taxpayer dollars), and yet they want to be immune from Federal law.  And no religious organizations pay taxes which means that we, as taxpayers, are supporting them.  So I say they can choose not to offer birth control as soon as they choose not to take Federal dollars and start paying taxes.  Religions are largely scams based on archaic beliefs.

LifeIsPain's picture

England's helath care is not that bad

<<I have lived in England for years, I KNOW the quality of State-administered health care.  It is awful.>>

Compared to what?  Then tell me why you have a lower infant mortality than the U.S..  The fact is in England at least everybody has access to health care. (And if you have money you can still buy the best health care.)  While you say that it's bad I've talked to many Brits who think it's just fine.  And Canada also provides universal health care and most Canadians I talk to are very happy with their health care. Same with other European countries.  And they provide health care far cheaper than the U.S.  If we spent what we currently spend and provided universal health care without the insurance companies we would probably have the best health care in the world.  Not going to happen though. 

LifeIsPain's picture

As for Fox

You people who watch Fox are brainwashed.  They're always comparing Obama to Hitler.  There was some commentator comparing this birth control mandate to Hitler.  Seriously?  In what universe is there any similarity except in the mind of a propagandist.  The problem is they are the network that cries wolf too many times.  Mandating birth control is not fascist.  It has nothing to do with Hitler.  By claiming that, they are insulting the real victims of the Holocaust as well as weakening any real point they have.

Tecumseh's picture

LifeIsPain

Please, go live in England, by all means. 

Why, if Canadian health care is so great, do so many Canadians come to the U.S., and pay OUT OF POCKET, for U.S. health care? 

Feel free to go anywhere else in the world, young man.  You will come "home" very quickly if the issue is quality and timely care.

As for religion--religion is not the issue.  Statist power grabs at the expense of liberty and private property are the issue.  Your sophomoric rants against religion demonstrate nothing more than a disconnect with the issue. 

And as for FOX, most of us on TFMR don't watch FOX much, if at all.  We read TFMR, ZH, and a dozen other "aware" websites and blogs, sort through what we read, and figure out for ourselves what is going on in this world. 

But, if you want to address the issue you raise in that very silly post--yes, when a central government mandates birth control (or, more correctly, when a central government mandates that religious organizations pay for your birth control), it is Statist (Nazi Germany was a Socialist and Statist tyranny).  You don't understand liberty, private property, the history of the Western World, the history of the United States, or the U.S. Constitution if you honestly believe the bullshit you write.

LifeIsPain's picture

It's an illusion that we're free

First of all, you totally ignored the fact that as I stated, Catholic hospitals take huge amounts of Federal dollars.  Without Federal dollars, they would all close.  If you take Federal money, then you need to abide by Federal law, my dear boy.  Secondly, you are deluded if you think we live in a really free country.  My tax dollars support wars I don't believe in, a huge defense budget that I don't approve of, etc.  We kill innocent people in other countries.  I could go on.  The government is forcing me to pay for things I find morally abhorrent--things far worse than forced access to birth control.  (Funny how you don't see the Catholic Church objecting much to our current wars--not politically correct I suppose or maybe they just don't care).  Liberty doesn't mean you get to do whatever you want or that the State does what you want them to do.  We are still far from a fascist state although the NDAA is getting us one step closer--now that is fascist and something to be concerned about.  This whole birth control thing is a tempest in a teapot.  58% of Catholics approve of access to birth control and 98% use or have used birth control.  The Catholic Church is antiquated and has a problem.

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@LifeIsPain

First of all, you totally ignored the fact that as I stated, Catholic hospitals take huge amounts of Federal dollars. 

I'd be interested in seeing the actual statistics, but I seriously doubt that. They would cut back on services or make up for the shortfall in some form or another. Should they stop taking federal money over this issue? Sure, I can agree with that.

The government is forcing me to pay for things I find morally abhorrent--things far worse than forced access to birth control.

And I don't think you should be forced to pay for those things either.

This whole birth control thing is a tempest in a teapot.  58% of Catholics approve of access to birth control and 98% use or have used birth control.

You need to draw a line in the sand somewhere. And that 98% statistic is misleading. It doesn't mean that 98% of Catholics have used the MORNING AFTER PILL, which is the abortion-inducing drug that's the really big issue. Framing this as just being about "birth control" is a distortion of the issue designed to sway support for the mandate.

Finally, either you are for the principle of liberty or you are against it. Picking and choosing what you'll support freedom-wise means that you don't really care about liberty so much as your own personal issues.

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Stephanie by a knockout

Spot on, Stephanie.  I think you nailed it!

LifeIsPain: It is difficult to come up with a reading list that would open your eyes, because it is next to impossible to know exactly the blinders you wear.  But you can never go wrong in reading the BIBLE, as in it you will find the Truth, an complete explanation of life as we know it, and a complete explanation of how we, through Grace, may overcome that life (and its inherent death).  You could try basic philosophy, but much of it slow going.  The bottom line with that is that you need to understand FREEDOM AND RESPONSIBILITY as the core of all we do.  I found it through the BIBLE, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Sartre, Camus, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, and yes, Russell (not all of these agreed with F&R as the core, and their arguments against it only reinforced the arguments for it made by most of these thinkers).  You must read The Road to Serfdom.  If you have not read it, don't even think about commenting on the current state of affairs, particularly O-B-Care.   Rand, Hayek, von Mises. . .   Orwell and Huxley both demonstrate where we are headed under the Statist framework under which we have operated since at least FDR (though again, Lincoln opened these doors when he destroyed the original Republic and the Constitution on which it was built).  Read some of the great fiction no one tells you about--I am thinking, in particular, of Andrew Nelson Lytle's The Velvet Horn, but there is so much enlightening literature out there that is virtually ignored by the ignorant intellectual elite.  Then, put down your controller after tuning out of MSNBC, and read Chronicles of Culture, National Review, The American Spectator, The Atlantic, Harper's, The New Yorker, and The Weekly Standard.  This should give you a broad range of ideas to roll around in your head, allowing you a fair chance to grasp which work in the marketplace of ideas.  Maybe in two or three years, maybe five, maybe, if you are lucky, much sooner, a light will go off and, out of the darkness within which you currently reside, you will emerge a new man.  Of course, you can choose to reside in the darkness for the rest of your life, but all that will get you is more life-is-pain realities.

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BTW, 98% "contraception use" of Catholics is a total lie

Thanks, Tecumseh!

BTW, I stumbled across this - 

No, 98% of Catholics do not use contraception

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/blog/stu/no-98-of-catholics-do-not-use-contraception/

I'll just pull out a few highlights:

4)      They didn’t count anyone who hadn’t had sex in the last three months.  No, this doesn’t just eliminate ugly people.  It eliminates every non-married person who is listening to the Catholic church enough to not have sex outside of marriage.  In other words, the most likely group to be listening to the Catholic church about contraception.

5)      They didn’t count anyone who was trying to get pregnant, or was indifferent to becoming pregnant.  In other words, they eliminated the single most likely group to avoid contraception.

7)      Two out of every five women in the survey were so incredibly Catholic that they either attended church services “less than once a month” or “never.”  Never?

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As said by

As said by @Tecumesh...FREEDOM AND RESPONSIBILITY are the key role that is needed to understand!!

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