Wrapping Monday

Ugh. Yuck. What an ugly day in paper metal. Almost makes paper metal seem worthless. Hmmm. Now there's a thought...

Anyway, sorry that this was such an ugly day. It certainly wasn't any fun and I don't think the shellacking is finished yet, either. We did, however, find some support today in an old, familiar place. Check out the chart below. Gold stopped and reversed almost right at the "gap open" of 8/7. You remember 8/7, don't you? That was the very fun Sunday evening following the late 8/5 announcement by S&P that they were downgrading U.S. debt. Anyway, having found support there once again, we now have a very clear line of demarcation to watch overnight and into the rest of the week. Gold is certain to test today's low of 1660 at some point. If that area holds again as a double-bottom, some spec buying may return and ease some of the pressure. If 1660 fails...which I suspect it will...it will be a clear signal that gold is headed to 1600-1610 next and, from there, could fall all the way toward 1550. Stay tuned.

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A couple of other items that merit your attention. First, "Ranting Andy" published a lengthy missive today. In great detail, he covers the ongoing manipulation and then wraps it up with a solid summary of rehypothecation.

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=n7vdaxbab&v=001FWOIEyOKRSKOkD6WkE3zrNuB4EKqrnvqDYk7R63fEbtutnd7FhnoObzP7tdyRwu-k00D6cHbMb0aAIIY62vivkK7mNHMku8IYNdq31o3yoQgn58g-ZQXtA%3D%3D

Next, this little gem was tucked away in the "contributor" section of ZH. IMHO, it should have made the main page:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/unreported-bedlam-treasuries-signals-massive-panic

Lastly there's this from the nonsensical CNBS program "Fast Money". James West of The Midas Letter was the guest. In a stunning development, Mr. West was allowed to make claims of central bank intervention/manipulation in the gold market. Of course, the goons that host the program completely ignored his comments and proceeded, instead, to focus on their pre-screened questions about copper, etc.

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000061991

I'll leave you tonight with this: Many have remarked that I seem a little apocalyptic these days. I've even gotten some emails warning me to lighten up a little bit, otherwise I might scare off some new readers. I don't know if you've noticed but it's not just me. As you click around various PM sites, you'll start to notice that many are  getting increasingly dire in their predictions. I can assure you that this is not part of some collusive plan to scare the bejeesus out of you. Simply put...we've all seen the warning signs for years and now those signals are blinking bright red. The latest addition to the House of Horrors is the otherwise calm and unflappable Patrick Heller. I've been reading and posting his stuff for years. I've never, though, seen him write something like this:

http://www.libertycoinservice.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=348:buy-silver-buy-gold-buy-now&catid=6:coin-update-articles&Itemid=29

Look, maybe this will all pass. Paul Krugman will be proven right for once and we'll all live happily ever after in some type nirvanic eutopia. Let's hope so.

Just in case we don't...Prepare Accordingly.   TF

Comments

Brotha Bob's picture

@ Loaded

If I were you ....... I would have to guess which way the market was going to go over the next few weeks. Is it up? Down? Sideways? If you think down, get your money now! If up, sell later. If sideways, dollar average.

Easy to say for me. I am not in you seat. I would sell some on any up swing, and hold while I have time on any down swings. You average you sales over the time you have. Besides phyzz, time is your friend.

I would suggest you examine the money you need and the time window you have to sell. Hit your revenue for each time period. Some may cost you more phyzz, others less. Hopefully it averages out to you favor.

The markets, to my surprise are up overnight. Nice way to wake up.

Control your fear and greed, be methodical. And, best of luck to you.

Shill's picture

@ TransmissionReb... great

@ TransmissionReb... great post friend...as noted no one should be married to their stash, you accumulated for insurance and too make some money. This is why I laugh when I read things like " Gold and silver do not make you money " lol wanna bet? Anyhow paying off your debt and being debt free is piece of mind, congratulations to you.

Now the chart that should scare us a little

Boardwalk's picture

Tyler

"CL, if we did in fact make it decades with a slow motion collapse in the US, that is by far the most positive outcome I can imagine.  That much time to prep?  Amazing."

That slow motion collapse started in 1971 when Nixon closed the gold window.  It has only become visible to us sheeple when we entered their end game in 2001.  

The pace has been accelerating since that time.  We've had 40 years to prep, unfortunately most of us didn't know what was coming until we heard the roar of the train coming through the tunnel toward us.

 
hungld's picture

Gold seven-week lows

Gold futures edged further down from seven-week lows in electronic trading Tuesday, as concern that adequate supply and a still possible downgrade of European nations’ sovereign debt by rating agencies pressured prices...

...Palladium prices also declining, while silver and platinum futures were mildly higher.

Source: http://igoldprice.net/gold-futures-edged-further-down-from-seven-week-lows-in-electronic-trading-tuesday/

Tuesday's always bad day for me :(

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Tecumseh's picture

Taxes on Gold?

Let's say I buy 10 ounces of gold at $1000/ounce and sell it 2 years later at $2000/ounce.  What are the federal income tax consequences of this transaction?  Clearly, I made $10,000.  Is that taxed as regular income or long-term capital gain?  I ask because I have been told that gold profits are taxed differently than normal capital gains.

Let's say I had $10,000 in prior year capital losses.  Do the capital losses offset the $10,000 in capital gains made this year?

Are numismatic quality gold coins treated differently than bullion gold coins?

Finally, in a confiscation scenario, are numismatic gold coins treated differently (were they in the 1930s)?

cib's picture

yuh, big drop in gold

whatevuh u blokes were talking about was gonna b the reason for a major drop in gold...."conjugation" or whatevuh u called it....doesnt matter.....was a load of huey as usual.  Youre all a bunch of fnnn quacks.  Gold goin higher and if you learned how to do technical analysis youd know why ...but ud rather quack out and conspiracy theroize and msg each other.

sorry turd, like your stuff but your members are bunch of ron pauls....lol

delete my msg...

......dont want to spoil the coolaide

Dr Durden's picture

Gold to $1300

I'm out of fingers and toes to count on the number of times we've (I've) read that. 

Every single friggen time withOUT fail gold drops the bottom callers worm their way up to the surface. I'm not saying they're wrong, certainly $0 is possible in this shitfest, but gooooood looooooooooord eeeenufff already!

All you need to count is the number of dips to the 200 MA over the past 7-8 years after a sizeable run and you'll know how many more chances you've had to trade your labor for real money. Take advantage or wear a steel plate on your ass cause you'll be kicking it in due time. I just said to the Mrs yesterday "why the F didn't I buy three times as much at 1500!?!?" 

Shill's picture

I'm out of fingers and toes

I'm out of fingers and toes to count on the number of times we've (I've) read that. 

Every single friggen time withOUT fail gold drops the bottom callers worm their way up to the surface. I'm not saying they're wrong, certainly $0 is possible in this shitfest, but gooooood looooooooooord eeeenufff already!

All you need to count is the number of dips to the 200 MA over the past 7-8 years after a sizeable run and you'll know how many more chances you've had to trade your labor for real money. Take advantage or wear a steel plate on your ass cause you'll be kicking it in due time. I just said to the Mrs yesterday "why the F didn't I buy three times as much at 1500!?!?"

Been doing this for 13 years now....I have seen the best and I have seen the worst. This is the trade you chose to do, and its volatile and will continue to be volatile. There are two sides to every coin I am neither a bottom caller or a top caller. You think your saying that @ 1500, try saying this when it was @ 250...I know I was there.

Don't kill the messenger, the Silver and Gold trade requires two views up or down...no in between.

I love metals just as much as the next guy on this site, maybe more...but I have learned to keep my emotions in check, with Gold and Silver comes Patience and maturity and RESPECT for the trade itself...many new comers lack this.

Be well

Last Rebel's picture

@Tecumseh, Transaction would

@Tecumseh,

Transaction would be taxed as a collectible @ 28%. That's why you sell it a bit at a time privately.

Shill's picture

  U.S. retail sales rise

 
And this is why Metals will struggle going forward, but it also provides opportunity.
 
Lets keep it real shall we.
opticsguy's picture

only a $2 beat-down at the 8:20 open

Take a look at this chart and tell me where the TA damage has been done

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD&p=W&yr=4&mn=0&dy=0&id=p62206596733

If you're a Stockcharts memeber, some of the Bollinger bands will show.

Tecumseh's picture

LAST REBEL

Can any of the "collectible" gains be offset by capital losses in prior years?

Also, are bullion and numismatic quality (e.g., graded coins) coins treated the same?

Orange's picture

Important Read

Bank of England publishes its view on how to change the international monetary system.

Wow, it's now plainly in the open.

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/fsr/fs_paper13.pdf

MonkeySmoke's picture

Santa is worried to death about G-O-L-D

Be Prepared's picture

EU uses Threat of Collapse to get Their Way

Doesn't this just sound all too familiar?  Hanker Paulson saying that martial law would have to be declared if Congress didn't serve up their constituents to the banks by foisting private debt onto the public's back.  The same playbook seems to be in play with this new and improved treaty....."Join" or "Die".......not really, but it certainly seems that's the threat.  The people at the top (The Bankers) don't give a rat's ass about anything or anyone other than themselves.  The time for the EU to end is now because it is stripping people of their basic rights to self govern...two countries now have technocrats installed as their leadership without the benefit of elections.  I really wish this experiment would just fall off the truck already so that maybe real solutions could be discussed rather than extending this poor excuse of idea.  I am thankful that the UK, and maybe the Finns, are saying "No."  Yes, I know the U.K. said "no" to save the City from any regulation, but a "no" is still a "no."

Shill's picture

LMAO! MonkeySmoke good one.

LMAO! MonkeySmoke good one. Exactly, if your worried sell it and go shopping. Other wise keep doing what your doing and forget the daily price movements.

You will age less...

Green Lantern's picture

re: Gold to $1300

Currency is going to ZERO! 

Shill's picture

Currency is going to ZERO!

Currency is going to ZERO!

Time frame please. I'm at 13 years and counting...And that is an honest question.

BoblovesHawaii's picture

SPY view

Orange's picture

Bank of England

You might not want to spend the time reading the article. They are just suggesting more control over countries.

Here is an excerpt.

In light of these uncertainties, this paper has also considered whether a more fundamental overhaul of the IMFS — in particular, a move towards an explicit rules-based framework — could be beneficial. Although the idea of a system which seeks to tax externality-generating activities in the IMFS is certainly one of the more radical policy options, it nevertheless warrants serious consideration given the very large potential costs of inaction.

Green Lantern's picture

@Shill

In the financial history of the world, there has not been ONE currency that has not failed.  NOT ONE!!  They failed for the same exact circumstances that are present in our financial system.   The inevitable will happen in it's rightful time.  Stop watching the clock, it makes time go slower and prepare.  That's an honest answer.  

http://dailyreckoning.com/fiat-currency/

"Some, myself included, might say that the dollar has already failed. It has lost over 92% of its value since its initial issuance in 1913. After the revaluation in 1934, the dollar dropped another 41%. In my opinion, it already is toilet paper money, but for the above-mentioned characteristics, which are alarmingly similar to the circumstances that led up to the eventual collapse of the dollar’s toilet paper predecessors, I believe that we have seen only the tip of the iceberg of the dollar’s inevitable path toward becoming toilet paper money."

Read more: Fiat Currency http://dailyreckoning.com/fiat-currency/#ixzz1gQSERSF7

LaMachinna's picture

Thanks, DaddyO

great (however, unsettling) article! smiley

FriedEggs's picture

EU

can't die. 'They' built it up for a reason and it took a lot of time and effort - for it to fail. They put in that time for a reason, the last thing they want is for it to break apart.

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I think that some members will drop out - and other new members will join in. But it wont end.

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Fried(e)

Green Lantern's picture

And don't forget

And don't forget to congratulate yourself for being early to the party.   I wish I had started preparing 13 years ago.  

Shill's picture

In the financial history of

In the financial history of the world, there has not been ONE currency that has not failed.  NOT ONE!!  They failed for the same exact circumstances that are present in our financial system.   The inevitable will happen in it's rightful time.  Stop watching the clock, it makes time go slower and prepare.  That's an honest answer. 

Thank you for the reply GL, though a stock reply as I have read it all, seen it all, done it all and  prepared for all...It ( the dollar ) is still accepted as an exchange for goods and services.

Therefore it is not worthless.....yet. And thank you for the links, I could offer you much better links than those you provided as the daily reckoning is, well lets just say not a site I would consider a solid source, and questionable at times with their views.

Be well

Thank you yes I was early..You can thank Worldcom and Enron for my early eyes.

Gold and Silver both look good here, 1680 is a must....I'll move on as I hate going back and fourth on the same subject as we can both agree the currency itself is a ticking time bomb and will have its day of course.

Shill

tpbeta's picture

That was a big one - Iran closed Straights of Hormuz

Big jump#

Velocity's picture

@ Econo' Disaster ...treating US citizens like...

..terrorists and being able to lock them up without trial is the natural extension of all Govts, be they so-called 'democratic' or not. Rather than light up the switchboards which'll do precisely nothing take the most effective action you can...

Cut the Suckers Off

Stop paying your taxes and paying the wages of this human scum to oppress you and rape the US economy and its citizens (via taxation). Like every Govt in the world (in history) it is rammed with cretins, crooks and thugs.. There's no such thing as a 'good Govt'..it does not exist

The sooner you and like-mindeds stop sponsoring the thugs the sooner the rot stops

 
 
 
Shill's picture

WTI Up $3....and the games

WTI Up $3....and the games continue..

Green Lantern's picture

Shill, I know you know.    In

Shill, I know you know.    In the end, we must be our own authority.   I shouldn't have needed to quote somebody else espeically for you.  You know as well as I do that anybody who can time markets or future events is a Nostradamus.    They just don't exist.   There is no answer to your question.  That would have been the more honest answer.   We are all learning patience in this market.  Knowing things in advance is both a blessing and a curse.    We just have to manage it in our own ways. 

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