Deflating Inflation

Jim Rogers: Bernanke Is Lying to Us

most people i speak with think that money is printed BECAUSE of inflation,

not that printing money CAUSES inflation.

most are living under a rock, believing everything the TV tells them. its sad really.

ill keep stacking metals and im starting to look into buying things that produce energy (solar, wind etc)

prices of photovoltaic screens (solar panels) are dropping.  now that the govt is offering a 30% tax ​credit​ on the installation of solar systems, this is becoming a very attractive option.  during the day the sun shines and the screens turn it into power which feeds into your system, and back on to the grid.  this makes your meter run backwards.  ideally, it runs backwards in the day as much as it runs forward at night.  net electric bill = nil.

i'm in the midst of a roofing upgrade preparatory to putting up my first solar array.  i'm not sure, but i think the numbers will work out to it paying for itself in seven or eight years.  crunching the numbers in hindsight in a few years will be more realistic.

yet another way to get ready for the approaching sh*tstorm.

I was wondering too! Turns out it is Management of Perceptions Economics.

Ooops, someone has already replied.

Thanks!

Seems to me, part of that MOPE is giving the allusion of deflation in the markets.  For example, people see house prices falling and cry "deflation".  Yet when it comes to everyday expenses (gas, electricity, groceries, etc), inflation is the flavor of the month.  And if you're a homeowner, you're getting brutalized on both sides.  I bought my current home in 2001 for $220k....ten years later, it's back to its original worth of $220k (and that's assuming I could find a buyer at that price, which is a big assumption).   My income, which I'm grateful to have, hasn't improved in the past three years, yet my grocery bill continues to surge in spite of my reliance on sales, coupons, etc. 

If mainstream America isn't aware of this inflation/deflation dichotomy now, I guess we'll have to be homeless and starving before we realize the fleecing we've all taken.  This is well beyond frogs in boiling water...there's no subtlety amidst the lies anymore.

I have been "couponing" for the last five years.  Up until about a year and a half ago, it was possible to get some items for almost free or even occasionally free when taking advantage of sales, manufactures coupons, and store coupons.  My Kroger that used to double and triple coupons has stopped doing that.  The manufacturers coupons are not as good as they used to be or as frequent. 

I still don't pay "retail" for most food and health and beauty items, but it requires more effort and creativity.  I do still find that produce can be bought cheaply at ethnic food markets (or price match at Wally-world), and Aldi's has good deals on basic items and good meat mark-downs.  Turd is right, though, now is certainly the time to stock up if you haven't already started.  There are lots of good free web sites to help you find coupons and store deals. 

And it may be this way for a long, long time. As long as the Banks are well capitalized and your lucky enough to have a job and earn a paycheck to stay afloat well this is our direction going forward, until something gives. Until that time get use to this up and down motion across all markets.

That's what I've noticed lately Eric--anything dairy has taken the parabolic rise we hope silver will someday have.  Milk and butter and cheese...oh my!

The politicians have to be able to say they did everything necessary to appease the constituents under that constitution (and to also defend themselves from the mob - "it wasn't us, we did it by the book." defense).

Once that formality has been cleared, the Fund gets its approval.

That is my personal view on Slovakia. It is a matter of political expediency and process forced on them that just delays the eventual result. Again, this is just my personal opinion as there is just no way I can see the Euro going down through the actions of such a small Euro player like Slovakia (no disrespect to the country nor its citizens).

It will be interesting to see how it actually turns out but if I had to go for a result, i would go with the one I have laid out above.

coli in many industries is kept low

CPI is more or less a spending index, not an inflation index. You cannot afford steak you buy hamburger meat.  And with imports thats been kept low too. Think TVs and PC's etc. But the everyday stuff--food energy education, medical care--where folks spend most of their money--is skyrocketing. Although on medical care technology, not cheap, is much better than 20-40 years ago.

ISGR--is a company that makes machines for non invasive prostate cancer surgery--each machine cost over a million. How do you factor in that cost benefit.

Senator  Mark Kirk sent an e mail out today to illinois residents about how bad things in Illinois are financially. Bummer-The state should go BK and do a workout re-negotiating everything.  And then live within its means

I'd suggest thinking even beyond the food/land/medical/defense stuff, too. Tools, building/repairing materials, ladders, storage bins, buckets, work gloves, clothes.

We're awash in 'stuff' now and it'd be a shame for all the hard work of all those Chinese workers to not make its way into your supplies before they decide that another arrangement is in order.

Breaking on CNBC:  Slovakia says YES.  

Glad we got that out of the way.  I can get on with my life now.  Have to go grocery shopping.  How's that for timeliness on today's thread!

BREAKING

Slovak parliament approves EFSF expansion: reports

Just got back from a bike ride & was reflecting upon my influences lately & I deviate slightly from my normal influences, regularly to hear consensus from different realms. So, yesterday I tried out this interview with Cliff High, on the whole webbot thing, he's got going on and he was saying that we're going to see food & energy prices go up, however other stuff won't be expensive, so it'll be confusing to people.  OK, so that was along the lines of what I've been thinking.

Then, I started thinking about the whole Occupy Wall Street/ Boston, etc.. and from looking at friends on facebook, the same people who are going to all these 350.org (Cap Carbon, etc), seem to be the same people who are going to these Occupy rallies.

So, on one hand, their saying.. carbon taxes (yay) and then, the next weekend, their occupying Boston saying you 1 percent are making it difficult for the little guy, we want economic freedom, etc.. (& Carbon Taxes). The two (2) stances just totally conflict. So, I reflected more & I'm like, most of these people that I know, I feel like their re-living their view of the 60's.. (with a drive to be like, 'I was there'), I occupied wall street. Much like relatives of mine are able to say they went to Woodstock.

It seems like most people have no idea what they stand for, because their caught up looking to be actively involved in something; without really grasping the fundamentals of what they stand for, as individuals. What's the phrase I'm looking for.. Oxymoron?? & these are my friends (yikes)!

According to ZH:

Slovakia Passes EFSF Expansion Vote

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 10/13/2011 - 11:10 Slovakia

Well, that's that.

• SLOVAK PARLIAMENT APPROVES EXPANSION OF EFSF RESCUE FUND, CONCLUDES RATIFICATION IN ALL EURO ZONE COUNTRIES -RTRS

Now: perhaps we can finally get some details of what will happen next instead of just blind short covering squeeze on rumor-based headfakes?

Butter expensive? 

It's a good thing American's didn't have to use Cherries this summer to fill up their cars.  The prices were ridiculous!

http://www.economicfreefall.com/2011/10/gold-and-silver-cyclical.html

Edit: Sorry for posting it twice...donno if it's possible to delete one of them.

Edit 2: Well, better with another chart at least;) Did a so called swap.

And y'all wonder why I have goats? 

Ta,

Thanks for your help in all of that M2 conversation. You bring up some good points Pining how this goes forward and at what rate they keep doing this. There's no way to know of course, but generally speaking , things are accelerating a bit as is the scope.

We talk about a $1,000,000,000 like it was $1 million and Trillions like we used to talk about the Billions not that long ago. If the reference points are starting to become that distorted already then it seems like the hyper inflation aspect is under way but in a very stealthy way and in the beginning stages.

Kind of what TF just described above and the MOPE conversation I see developing. 

Were at the point where we talk about $500 Billion or $1 Trillion not being enough to offset this or add to that etc. It's getting a bit more distorted as there is more room being created for distortion and proportion to take place. The higher the M2 and debt ceilings allows more room for the chaotic swings.

At this rate, at some point in the next 10 years (not so wild a guess maybe) we'll be talking about about some things in terms of trillions or tens of trillions like it's no big deal. If every country doesn't expand or allow all other countries to creatively fix and expand their money/credit supply then we're screwed and it all resets.

I don't think that happens. I think they keep kicking the cans down the road together and grudgingly accept it as long as someone doesn't kick theirs too far ahead or doesn't lag too far behind. I think they've decided to to try and kick in unison. That's why  the CB coordination is vitally important. It either all works together due to the massive currency swaps going on or the system fails quickly. Game over. Global war on.

I don't think that happens (sheer hope). I believe the decision to let Iran be the next one in this 10 year cycle is what's next and not anything global. Doesn't it strike anyone as odd that as much as the U.S. and Russia and China etc. butt heads over big issue's that in the end at these U.N. Security Council votes that they often go along with us or for the most part when it comes to military action they don't directly veto it?

There must be some trade off on a grand scale behind closed doors or diplomatically well ahead of time. (China premiere WH  visit Jan 2011) The U.S. already has a green light for Iran imo from the others as long as trade continues and each country can get away with whatever the other countries let them in exchange for this to happen.

That's how I see it. Russia has Billions upon Billions invested in Iran and Syria. As does China. And yet they'll allow it. Ever wonder why?

It's the game of Stratego and RISK I've outlined before except in real life and metaphorically speaking.

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Ill let you keep doing the art thing Perfidious.  You have good tastes and it's just random enough that it's well done imo.

If you, or anyone else has some great classical music, please post it on my music and vid thread. I forgot to link the thread...hold on.

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/2366/planet-dph-life-display-247

It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it. Parsons swallowed it easily, with the stupidity of an animal. The eyeless creature at the other table swallowed it fanatically, passionately, with a furious desire to track down, denounce, and vaporize anyone who should suggest that last week the ration had been thirty grams. Syme, too-in some more complex way, involving doublethink, Syme swallowed it. Was he, then, alone in the possession of a memory? 
 

Super tight coupling.

Turd 2012

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