TFMR Podcast #2
In what will become a regular, bi-weekly segment, I proudly give you podcast #2. This week's guest is Gonzalo Lira. Many of you are familiar with Gonzalo's work but, for those of you that aren't, this hour-long discussion will be a real eye-opener. This was recorded on Wednesday, before the late-week carnage and, frankly, I don't recall if we spent much time discussing "Operation Twist". No matter. The discussion is more about where we go from here and the important work that Gonzalo does at his sites, http://www.liraspg.com and http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com Enjoy.
http://traffic.libsyn.com/tfmetals/Lira1.mp3
p.s. I was able to fix the feedback problem but we did experience a little audio trouble this week. I should have anticipated a little audio lag in the connection between Gonzalo in Chile and my location in Anytown, USA. Oops. Not too big of a problem but occasionally noticeable and for that I apologize. TF
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Thanks T
Thanks for what you do TF!
Dang
Second, but my first ever comment.
Doctor Copper
Listening now.
Gonzalo reminds us that copper warned us ... it seems Dr. Copper was right again!
We will restructure, become stronger/Fed.'s survival instincts
Russia May Lend $3.4 Billion to Cyprus as Fiscal Woes Mount
By Scott Rose and Stelios Orphanides - Sep 23, 2011 12:19 PM ETFri Sep 23 16:19:52 GMT 2011
Russia may lend as much as 2.5 billion euros ($3.4 billion) to Cyprus by the end of the year as the eastern Mediterranean island seeks cheaper funding amid surging borrowing costs.
“We’ll probably reach a final agreement only by the end of the year, no sooner,” Russian Deputy Finance Minister Sergei Storchak told reporters late yesterday in Washington.
The amount will depend on the country’s needs, he said..
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/russia-may-lend-3-4-billion-to-...
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DPH: To myself, the story above is somewhat irrelevant. The real story is the fact that Russia defaulted on it's debts about two decades ago (longer?) and is now in a position of strength and ctually loaning money out and dictating terms.
I realize that the Russian Ruble was never, and will never be, the reserve currency that the USD still is. But what it goes to show imho, is that a default by the US will not be the end of the world. Just look at what Russia has been able to do since it shed it's liabilities and consolidated it's position financially. I'm not advocating for a U.S. default but I do think the U.S. Pols. and the Fed. believe they can reorganize and restructure by moving the balance sheet around so that the revenue and liabilities don't look as bad to the rest of the world as it really is.
The one thing I've noticed since 2007/2008 is that no one on Wall St. or D.C. has a problem with changing the financial accounting standards to suit their needs. When I continually hear our Pols. and Fed. state that it is not possible for the U.S. to default due to the Reserve Status and the printing press etc. it tells me that they will try the largest accounting "restructuring" in the history of the world at some point while never, ever showing anyone the Fed.'s real balance sheet.
After witnessing what just happened over the past fews days, and now just fully realizing the power and scope of the Fed. and their willingness to do "whatever it takes" to survive and manipulate the entire planet, I'm left with one thought for the most part.
They created the system, they have perfected the system and they will use their system anyway they seem fit whenever it needs to be used for their purposes and no one else's. Period
The Fed. is the system.
They own the system and they realize no one can do anything about it short of a major military confrontation that I don't think any major nation wants. Raising the USD as the worlds currency flag after WWII and demonstrating to the world that we will do whatever is necessary to win (Atomic bombs) left a indelible mark on the psyche of the world that we can pull anything off and that we are unpredictable by nature and basically cut throat in all matters militarily and financially. They would be correct.
Are we not witnessing the same thing today sans the nuclear weapons, so far? The power of the Fed/USD and the ingrained thought of what we will do to certain countries/regions is something those of us here in North America can't even imagine. The rest of the world realizes it. I'm not just talking military actions. The financial warfare going in many places (Libya also) can't be denied.
The Fed. realizes their powers and is feeling strong to this day. Is there any doubt remaining?
(I realize many of you can't stand the U.S. and it's tactical advantages and I'm not chest thumping. I'm stating what I believe to be the truth about what the Fed. and U.S. are capable of and have done in the past in order for the future to be mostly unchallenged in many ways. It seems to have worked and it shows no sign of weakening appreciably in the near future)
Thanks TF!
Dropped a few FRNs in your tip jar,
I visit the site regularly so I can justify supporting the platform,
Thank you for YOUR time TF invested in educating others!
help with podcast
for anyone out there for some reason I can only receive about 1 min of the podcast am I doing something wrong?
lakemike
@DPH
I jotted down a summary of GSR on the last thread here;
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/59055#comment-59055
Do you guys rest?
You guys have stamina for the incessant postings and for keeping this site going! I applaud you!
I am primarily a stacker, looking at a long term time line - over 20 years.
So, I sympathize with you guys for what you are going through with the blatant manipulation. Do you really think that the margin hikes weren't pre-planned and leaked- before the G-20 and IMF meetings?
Of course they were, to their partners in crime.
I take solace in the face that premiums have gone up even more. This is the number one indicator of the disconnect between paper and physical(imo).
As a stacker, my value in fiat when I do a mathematical conversion is down. HOWEVER, MY NUMBER OF OZS HAVE STAYED THE SAME.
And this is how I have chosen and will continue to choose to measure my preparation.
Do you think the Indian and Chinese care what the margins are? No.
They are more than 50% of global demand. They are loving this takedown.
And so should anyone here interested in preparation and financial protection for what is inevitable.
Dollar cost average and keep stacking. That's my motto.
Rain
Question on Margins?
Just curious:
With the raising of margins (criminally and leaked), do you think there will be margin calls that will further drive down prices on Monday?
Thoughts anyone?
I have quite a bit of dry powder and I am trying to determine when to deploy (phyzz only).
Rain
It's just Kills ME!
It's like turning on the Weather Channel and seeing a HUGE hurricane coming.
This hurricane.......let's call it Hurricane Keynes, is so BIG it's going to cover the entire nation. No home will be spared.
And all of a sudden......BAM! Your home owners insurance rates just went down 25%
AWESOME! Let's see how long that lasts. Keep stacking.
Repost; Don't Fall for the Disinfo Agents!
This is a repost from the end of the last thread. This is a great buying opportunity, but some folks don't want you to think so. These are current actual prices, not the incorrect ones postes by Skyezz.
@ Skyezz; Don't know if you're intentionally misleading, or if you just don't do your research very well. I find it hard to believe that someone could be wrong wrong so many times in a row without actively trying.
DBS Coins $40.18
Golden Eagle Coins $42.08
Texas Precious Metals $45.88
Gainesville Coins $48.12
APMEX $48.92
Bullion Direct $50.52
Blanchard Online $53.44
Kitco $65.70
I've personally dealt with Texas Metals, Bullion Direct and Gainesville, and I found it hard to believe the prices you posted, so I checked. These are all ASE prices.
"Texas Precious Metals $45.88"
Just checked and they're $34.92, $34.05 for quantity
"Gainesville Coins $48.12"
Checked again and they're $35.18, $34.27 in quantity
"Bullion Direct $50.52"
Wrong again, they're $35.22
You do everyone a disservice by posting these figures... just look at it; you're off over $5,000.00 a box on all of them!
I'll personally sell you a box of my ASE's for 10% less than any of the prices you posted. How could you say no to a 10% discount?? Fair enough? PM me for payment instructions.
Radio Show on Precious Metals
Great podcast Turd. Thanks.
Before Turd and ZeroHedge, for me there was Harold Seigel. I have since graduated to TFMR and ZeroHedge, but every once in a while when I need an extra head shake I go back to Harold and listen for the 40 minutes.
Harold Seigel is the reason I first got into PM’s. Harold has a weekly 40 minute radio show on several Canadian AM stations. This show has been running for about 10 years. He does preach his own book which is World Wide Precious Metals and Coloured Diamonds, but the discussion is current and factual.
The show is PM’s for newbs. The emphasis is on physical non-leveraged investing. Each show discusses the previous weeks events. Lots of facts, theories and speculation. I thought this weeks discussion of the recent plunge was good.
Perhaps Harold could do a Turd podcast.
If some Turdites would like to listen to a broadcast here is the link. I hope you enjoy.
http://www.hesradio.com/index.html Click on "Recent Shows".
Regards, Chicken
Interesting account on internet trolling - PSYOPS
http://sgtreport.com/2011/09/someone-at-bank-of-america-doesnt-like-sgtreport/
This site has (thankfully) been remarkably clean of said hatemongers, detractors and disinfo agents. Nevertheless, the link above is perhaps an interesting perspective on who and why might be behind said activity -- in addition, of course, to the vast, directly federally funded infrastructure laid out in the report below. The specific section most involved in this is here -- the Ministry of Truth:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/functions/psychological-ops/
It seems that (not surprisingly) private corporations may be just as active (though in the case of BofA, one can be justified in questioning whether it's a federal agency or a private entity -- and in general, the line is quite blurry anyway).
For an interesting perspective on how long and how successful this particular form of perception management has been going on, take a look at some of these interviews:
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/5018#comment-5018
Greek Default Announced?
Zero Hedge are talking about a "managed default" from Greece, seems this is inevitable no matter how many times it is refuted. If this is the case then the unlimited dollar liquidity and the market smash down in PMs could foretell next weeks recapitalisation and systemic bailout?
Perhaps its just wishfull thinking that JPM are closing down their shorts in a co-ordinated move with the FED and the G20 before all hell breaks loose.... we live in interesting times for sure.
Murphy's laws come into play in this environment, the most applicable being;
If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which something can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way, unprepared for, will promptly develop
http://www.murphys-laws.com/murphy/murphy-laws.html
Love GL looking forward to hearing it
but right now it's early evening in the UK and thought I would share what we are currently listening to - because it seems prescient
We're partying hard here (no kids!!) so hope that everyone has a fab w/end
RaRa
http://www.economicfreefall.c
Stupidest News Report Ever re Gold
(Not sure which is the main thread right now, so re-posting this here)
The local television news played a short bit yesterday regarding the drop in Gold prices. The sad fact is that this is probably what many in the public believe.
[sarc] Yup - as we all know - Gold isn't backed by anything, but the USD is fully backed and safe! [/sarc]
Wow - a whole bunch of people are in for a rude awakening.
Brother John "$100 Silver by Jan."
Don't know how many of you are following BrotherJohnF, but his latest call was right on the money. His 'short AGQ' position convinced me to do the same, and helped my portfolio from totally disentegrating. Only problem was, my position was way too small and I sold too soon, because I just don't like being short, it makes me nervous. (Except for my JPM shorts!)
So i just watched his latest video and in the comments section someone asked if he was still projecting $100 silver by January and he said yes! Also said he was long AGQ now.
http://www.youtube.com/user/BrotherJohnF
And here's one for you Turd
before I get too p**sed
Love everything that you do man!
RaRa
Default?
What does "default" even mean anymore? Greece has been in a state of default for years, so has the U.S. and most Western "nations". Every time the U.S. has raised the debt ceiling they have fundamentally defaulted, no? There is no such thing as real sovereign default when trillions of units of "liquidity" can be just punched-up on keyboards and legislated into "fiscal policy" by what seems to be now a global monetary authority of some description managed by vampires. Politics and "printing presses" are the only things holding this global financial f***fest together anymore.
I don't want to play this dumb game anymore.
@ReachWest: That little clip is representative of just how full retard the world has become. What is gold backed by!? OMFG!
THANKS for a great interview Turd!
@Reach West
That gold "news" report was hilarious!
Funny, the following may be a clip of that, uh, same girl before she exited her career in education, dyed her hair black and became a crack financial reporter:
Miss Teen USA 2007 - South Carolina answers a question - YouTube
OMG
I don't believe it. I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
Heading back to the van, see ya guys later. LOL
Thoughts please ....
.... On the €2t bailout and effects on pm's???
re- thoughts
Bullish...... Bearish..... who the hell knows?
Telegraph's monster euro bailout story
Multi-trillion plan to save the eurozone being prepared
European officials are working on a grand plan to restore confidence in the single currency area that would involve a massive bank recapitalisation, giving the bail-out fund several trillion euros of firepower, and a possible Greek default.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8786665/Multi-trillion-plan-to-save-the-eurozone-being-prepared.html
Lira's scenarios
Thanks TF!
Answers to all questions!
RE: Lira's view on the benefit of continually expanding economy
This is all well and dandy, Gonzalo -- there is just one problem: the finite capacity of the bottle in which those bacteria are dividing and doubling every X seconds/minutes.
The exponential curve WILL end, one way or the other. I just happen to favor a scenario that results in less than a 50% extinction rate overnight.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PLD443635FA5F476E8
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." - Albert Allen Bartlett
@DPH
I think that maybe Russia is trying to buy loyalty.Cyprus position to middle east especially Syria is of strategic importance.Russia has a naval base in Syria.Munitions that where on the way from Iran to Syria,where intercepted in 2009 and stored in Cyprus.Crazily in 100 F heat,until they blew up this year.Taking out a power station.With Cyprus exposure to Greece.Russia is exploiting it future desperation.So there is more going on then meets the eye.People and countries will be asked soon to take sides.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/cyprus/8629594/Cyprus-e...
http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2011/05/31/fitch-cuts-cyprus-...
As for can't stand the US.I don't think that is true.There are lots of things wrong with all are western Democracy.But we can improve them.Though sometimes it feels we have no power at all over anything.But this site wouldn't exist inside China and many other countries around the world.So we are better off than most.The US is a great country,it just seems to have lost it's way.All great powers in the world have done this.When the people lose control of there governments,there government lose control.
DPH thanks for all the post you do.I don't know where you find half this stuff.But your pooling power is fantastic.