WOPR Sells. Turd Buys.
In a surprising development <sarc on>, The Regime and The Republocrats are on track to reach a "grand compromise" that raises the debt ceiling by about $3T (buys enough time to put this issue away until after the next election). The plan also has no immediate spending cuts or tax increases (why piss off your voters before the next election?).
W.O.P.R. is running wild tonight and selling PMs. The Cartel is anxiously anticipating a cascade in gold big enough to spur some margin hikes. Will they get it? Who knows? Who cares? The United States of America, originator/printer of the world's reserve currency, just decided to increase its national debt by another 20%! I will buy what WOPR is selling. I'll take delivery of it and stack it with the rest. If you have any doubts tonight, the chart below is the only one that matters. Rest well knowing that you are doing all you can to protect yourself from the heinous criminals in Washington. More in the a.m. TF

10:25 EDT UPDATE:
Man, oh man. This is definitely something that you do not want to be messing with today.

This is crazy and it will rip your head off if you play with it. If you must trade, do so with as much time in your pocket as possible. For example, the only options I own expire near Thanksgiving,
As stated above, all of the hoopla regarding the "compromise" needs to be ignored. All that matters is that the world's largest debtor nation (and provider of the reserve currency) has just allowed itself to go another 20% deeper into debt. Over the next two years! This is what the end of The Great Keynesian Experiment looks like. As we drop deeper into the "funnel", debts rise exponentially and the "coin" spins faster and faster until the bottom simply drops out. Again, let WOPR and the day traders sell their PMs. Take advantage of today's "sale" and add to your stack. TF


p.s. If you need some comic relief to get through the day, I give you this. From the always-brilliant Motley Fool site:


Comments
Thanks Turd!
Hope you had a good weekend man.
Thanks
Thanks, Tesla. Mrs F and I were celebrating another anniversary.
what a shocker
I always open kitco on Sundays at 3 PST and expect a big selloff. Thanks for another buying opportunity EE, I really appreciate it. I'm planning to buy as much as possible before Tuesday debt ceiling is reached.
Sweet!
Yep you got er right
2.5 trillion $ in cuts over 10 years, seems far too little and way too late. Wont touch their deficits unless they get control over military spending and banksters paychecks, ( loopholes allow them to pay little in tax)
Gold dropped from a record as President Barack Obama said that U.S. lawmakers reached a deal to increase the nation’s debt limit and cut the federal deficit, averting a default tomorrow and eroding demand for haven assets.
Gold for immediate delivery lost as much as 1.3 percent to $1,607.45 an ounce, and traded at $1,613.35 at 9:45 a.m. in Singapore. Spot gold, which reached an all-time high of $1,632.80 on July 29, advanced 8.5 percent last month on concern that sovereign-debt crises in the U.S. and Europe may derail the global economic recovery.
“Gold reached a record because U.S. politicians didn’t seem to be getting anywhere with their negotiations and now that they have an agreement, gold will be knocked back a little,” said Steven Zhu, operations manager at Yinjian Futures Co.
Republicans and Democrats may vote today on the measure, which would raise the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling through 2012, cut spending by about $1 trillion and call for enactment of a law shaving a further $1.5 trillion from long-term debt by 2021. Lawmakers should “do the right thing,” Obama said from the White House late on July 31 in Washington.
“We all knew the U.S. politicians would reach a deal by Aug. 2,” Zhu said from Shanghai. “However, problems still exist within the economies of the U.S. and Europe and that will keep gold’s uptrend intact.”
Gold for December delivery in New York shed as much as 1.4 percent to $1,608.20 after rallying to an all-time high of $1,637.50 on July 29. Exchange-traded product holdings climbed for a fifth day on July 29, reaching a record 2,152.222 metric tons, Bloomberg data show.
Cash silver fell as much as 1.2 percent to $39.41 an ounce. Spot platinum gained 0.9 percent to $1,796.13 an ounce, while palladium rose 0.6 percent to $836 an ounce.
Of note Asia is running green so far tonite, so i suspect we may see green markets , no matter where the metals head, and despite the abhorrent state of the economy in the US and Europe.
Downgrade coming on US debt, this deal solved nada.
Time to ride the roller
Time to ride the roller coaster.
Want to add some gold/silver
Want to add some gold/silver soon. Is tonight a good time to buy? Already rumblings of several groups in the Senate and House that don't think this. What happens if it doesn't pass?
I figured a deal would be announced tonight and they would try to hammer both gold/silver at the same time. I'm thinking though by morning if lots of the dems and/or gop are bashing this and saying they won't vote for it, that the metals will take off again.
So wondering if tonight is the time to buy some like 1/2 or 100% of my available PM cash./
sell off
I guess there will be more of the Fire Sale once Indian Markets open up.Also,when the US markets open up today.Good time to BTFD.Seems like the SilverHorse is all saddled up to romp home!!!!!!
hmmm
YESSSSS I like it!
1580 or lower please!
Once Upon A time
Seems like we are gonna see Silver in the 30's for a very short time...and then just like that it will be Hisssstttoooorryyy...good bedtime stories it will make for my Grandkids....Once upon a time We had Silver In the 30's....BTFD
Happy Anniversary Turd
Happy Anniversary Turd..seems ur gift comes in the form of silver sale.....lol...like u always say...BTFD!!!!!!1
what time do Indian markets
what time do Indian markets open?
"2.5 trillion $ in cuts over 10 years"
HOHOHO. You gotta love these gimmicks outta D.C. When the spin is taken out we can see that it actually means they'd spend up all the rosey cut in next 10 years right before the coming election. So what to do come 2013? Perhaps it's time to spend the projected cut in 2020-30 decade? A pure scam and rocket fuel for the metlas going forward.
Decided to BTFD
Got lots of nice gold coins plus some silver to keep those company. Nobody is bidding tonight, which is just fine by me. Please keep it up. I have some silver and gold eagles that were getting lonely.
Happy anniversary to Turd and Mrs. F. It takes a special woman to put up with us bugs. Of course being able to show large profits helps them out. Sure worked on my wife...
Ron Paul - Unmatched Intellect (in Politics)
For Rui and others
Have you looked back at the Bush budgets? There was going to be a surplus in 2012. So no need to raise the debt ceiling, since we'll be bringing in more money than we spend. Oh wait...you mean we didn't get a 4.5% yoy increase in GDP? And we had to have QE2? And we're still spending like drunken sailors? Uh, nevermind on that surplus thingy then...
WOPR
Do I need to watch War Games to understand this reference? I'm pretty sure I saw it a few decades ago but I don't get it.
@ Eric re Dilbert
Thanks for the hat tip regarding the Dilbert post. But the truth is, the credit belongs to Mrs. Murphette. I never look at most of the paper, let alone the funnies. When she showed it to me I had to post it for all my new friends in Turdville.
I wanted to paste it to the comment section like you did but it didn't work. Can you, or someone enlighten me on how it's done?
Took the day off and then celebrated the in-laws 61st anniversary. Good to get away from the ugly news world for a while. Been playing catch up on the site since then. Don't think I missed much today regarding the Republocrat Show from DC. I have seen this political theater act touring the country for many years.
LaMachinna's perspective...
Margin hikes again?
Just saw something posted by SGS. It seems his broker just increased margin requirements for silver.
The last series of margin hikes (last May) was preceded by margin hikes by some brokers.
I'm still long paper silver, but people may want to pay close attention to this.
Here's what SGS posted:
http://silvergoldsilver.blogspot.com/2011/07/here-we-go-again-ib-raised-...
Check please
As expected, debt ceiling raised. Won't make a dent to fix anything. Same sh*t, different day, EPIC FAIL. The U.S. Fiatsco will continue to decline in value, just as planned.
From Zero Hedge:
To Murphy and Eric
Hey Murphy,
I didn't see your earlier post re: Dilbert, but kudos and 10 hat tips to you. Really, one of the more memorable Dilberts which everybody on this board should see.
And Eric, thanks for posting it here. How did you do it, you sneaky thing. ;)
Happy Anniversary to
you and the Mrs. Turd!
buying
Buying more silver tomorrow, adding to my stack.
Depressed
Depressed that US representatives didn't have courage to do the right thing for the country and or future generations. Why saddle them with the debt of their forefathers. Funny how I wish for sanity to be brought about by massive foreign selling of bonds, revalue of the Yuan, and move to gold standard in other currencies. Burn this den of thieves and vipers down.
Although living in the US would be harsh, if our Gov. doesn't have the guts, hopefully other countries will.
F' N A!!!
Big ole f'n A! to buying the dip. But BE VERY CAREFUL not to buy the Falling KNIFE like I did Sunday Nite May 1st!!!
\ wait for it to settle or buy in increments at lower levels the farther it goes down.!!!!!
ps.
PS.
It is terribly depressing to know my children will grow up in the USA and not know what a great country this used to be and how great it could have been!!!
Why does everyone go to Washington have to sell out?
@ Metal
They are not selling out. They are doing the job they were hired to do, by the people that give them the money to run their campaigns.
I think this is more about
I think this is more about the fact that if they don't raise the debt ceiling, things would easily implode from the austerity cuts. So why take the pain on your watch when it can happen on someone elses. The problem is, one of these days likely very soon, there will be no more road to kick the can down.
I'm sure this bill will pass but I hope that the Tea Party stays strong like they have been so far. Then we need to kick out even more of the trash/liberals/rinos/ in 2012 along with obama.
Even though I know this will be very painful, I honestly hope we implode soon. That is the only way to end this ponzi scheme we are currently in. Hopefully we are still a free country after that happens which is really my only concern about a collapse.
Dedicated to our lovely representatives in Washington.
@eman laer Yeah. From War
@eman laer Yeah. From War Games. "The computer that runs the game" Much like the computer algos for the high frequency trading that goes on. Turd is just making a humorous comparison. It's a "Turdism". See link at the top. He might not have updated it but it is a Turdism.
Oh for the days of Innocent
Oh for the days of Innocent America.. ...well, at least we thought they were innocent days. .....Was in the grocery store today with my daughter over in the frozen foods and she said 'hey Mom...let's get some tots'.....We both started laughing immediately because of the movie Napoleon Dynamite and ..well, ever since that movie...Tater Tots just make us laugh.
...Well, then I got to thinking of the era that movie is made about ....the whole thing centers around a slice of real Americana that seems lost and gone forever. ......anyway.. to laugh is still good.
@ MetalMonkey
"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goals, nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude" Thomas Jefferson. Just food for thought and well intended, I have to push myself back towards the positive quite often. Best.
Oh!! ....And.. Happy
Oh!! ....And.. Happy Anniversary TF & Mrs. TF!
real Americana
@Ginger, yes, for me it feels like the whole sense of community is slowly sailing away and we are waving to it from some distant shore. On a happier note were you around for Drive-In movies, true American culture.
Need your expertise
28.28 grams, .925 silver mintage 10000- 1997 Millenium Isle of man "Birth of Christ" coins... guys I know nothing about these type UK coins..
I have 5 and need to sell them quick. What is fair price? Melt value is fine...
Oh yes... maravich44..
Oh yes... maravich44.. ..trying to remember the 1st drive in movie I ever saw... ..not sure. Our town had the old downtown Main Street walk in theatre and a couple of drive-in movie theatres. ....I was a small kid back in the day of Grizzly Adams and Old Yeller.. ...lol.. loved those movies. Anyone remember?
Here are the words to the above song, Forever Young. ...Seems somehow fitting..
let's dance in style, lets dance for a while
heaven can wait we're only watching the skies
hoping for the best but expecting the worst
are you going to drop the bomb or not?
let us die young or let us live forever
we don't have the power but we never say never
sitting in a sandpit, life is a short trip
the music's for the sad men
can you imagine when this race is won
turn our golden faces into the sun
praising our leaders we're getting in tune
the music's played by the madmen
forever young, i want to be forever young
do you really want to live forever, forever and ever
some are like water, some are like the heat
some are a melody and some are the beat
sooner or later they all will be gone
why don't they stay young
it's so hard to get old without a cause
i don't want to perish like a fading horse
youth is like diamonds in the sun
and dimonds are forever
so many adventures couldn't happen today
so many songs we forgot to play
so many dreams are swinging out of the blue
we let them come true
Forever young
@Ginger, Thank You for that have not seen it before and Bob Dylan's tune auto flashed in my brain, "may your glass be always full and may you stay forever young".
terri5125
use www.silverrecyclers.com to calculate your metals worth
In today's South China Morning Post
Ain't it the truth
http://www.scmp.com/files/SCMP/Opinion/Static%20Files/SCM_News_cartoon.9...
Couple of Questions
TF,
Do you think it's more probable we will see $36 first or $50 for silver?
If s&p does downgrade from AAA, and that means higher interest rates - doesn't this have a negative impact for PMs?
Thanks!
Hand waving in the air...
@terri5125
I know, I know... One I can answer ;-)
28.28 grams x .925 (Sterling silver =.925% Silver)
=26.159 grams pure silver
Grams to Troy ounce calculator http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/grams-to-troy-ounces.htm says:
Answer: 26.159 g = 0.841031 oz(troy)
0.841031 oz(troy) x spot price ($39.39)
= $33.12821109
It's time for a got dam
It's time for a got dam revolution in this country. It's time to overthrow all the politicians and bankers and send them straight to hell.
As has been said several
As has been said several times here before... The Markets are designed to separate you from your $... seems as though every time the majority of people think one way, markets for sure move the other!
So, i may focus on Ag since she has been left lonely, on the sidelines. Shhhh... :)
>>It's time for a got dam
>>It's time for a got dam revolution in this country. It's time to overthrow all the politicians and bankers and send them straight to hell.
How are you going to do that while you are sitting in your underpants on your PC? I don't see any burning buildings. The USA is far of being angry enough for a real revolution. Greece is a bit further down the road. When we see trucks blockading the borders and American flags on fire and 1 million people marching on Washington maybe something will happen. Nobody is going to risk their lives in a revolt until people get off their asses and start dying for the cause.
If you want to ask me why I am not out there getting my ass torched it's because
1) I am not American
and
2) I believe in voting with my feet. I left my home country out of disgust many years ago.
New debt deal: "It would
New debt deal:
"It would raise the debt ceiling in two installments, sufficient to serve the nation’s needs into 2013. The framework, as detailed by officials in both parties, would cut $917 billion in spending over a decade, raise the debt limit initially by $900 billion and assign a special congressional committee to find another $1.5 trillion in deficit savings by late November, to be enacted by Christmas.
If Congress met that deadline and deficit target, or voted to send a balanced-budget constitutional amendment to the states, Obama would receive another $1.5 trillion borrowing boost.
In the case of Congress failing to take either step, or not producing debt savings of at least $1.2 trillion, the plan allows the president to obtain a $1.2 trillion debt-ceiling extension. Still, that would trigger automatic spending cuts across the government -- including in defense and Medicare -- to take effect starting in 2013. The Medicare cuts would only affect provider reimbursements, not benefits."
True. Everything is still
True. Everything is still way too cheap and free here. If food stamps and welfare got cut off, and alcohol, cellphones, cable TV, and internet porn became unaffordable...we'd probably see all kinds of rioting in the streets.
Re: Titus, SGS, Margin hikes
Geez, thank you guys for posting that. I'll be checking mails more often the following days now for updates from CME. Another margin hike would be really nuts, we're already at unprecedented levels for the price of the futures contract vs the price of silver; but of course you can never count it out.
- Markus
Secure thyself!
Unlike Dilbert, I'm wearing a full-metal jacket(s)! :>D
Your Social Security $ at work